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High Court: Govts Can Take Property for Econ Development
Bloomberg News

Posted on 06/23/2005 7:30:08 AM PDT by Helmholtz

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To: RightWhale
And of course this is the Fourth Amendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

That is another explicit grant of private property rights.

201 posted on 06/23/2005 8:32:50 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: snowsislander
You said..."it appears that the definition of "public use" in the 5th Amendment has shifted from the direct use of the public at large ("...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation") to a more derivative "public good"

EXACTLY. IMO...this ruling goes against constitutional principles..and is truly dangerous...because of the case in Connecticut that was the basis of this decision.

The property that will be seized through eminent domain does not have to end up as commonly held by the government...and thus indirectly by the public as a whole...but it can be property that is taken from one PRIVATE individual...and given to another PRIVATE entity..be it an individual, private company, or a publicly traded company. This IMO far exceeds the original intent of eminent domain law.
202 posted on 06/23/2005 8:32:52 AM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: ran15

After owning three homes, I rent too. Best decision I've made in years.


203 posted on 06/23/2005 8:33:09 AM PDT by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Helmholtz

I wonder if this will help burst the "housing bubble"?

Congress should set about doing what it can to reverse this decision . . .


204 posted on 06/23/2005 8:33:09 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Motherbear
City councils are going to be bribed constantly

If the worry is that city councils are going to become corrupt, then address that issue. That would be a series problem that would reach far beyond questions of private property ownership.

205 posted on 06/23/2005 8:33:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Helmholtz

So where do start throwing the tea?


206 posted on 06/23/2005 8:33:59 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: KillBill

Thanks for a few positive words. I feel like I've had a rug pulled-out from under me.


207 posted on 06/23/2005 8:34:24 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Flint
Well now. The only way to overcome this is for Congress to pass a law that voids the decision. They can do it, but how to get it done?



The only ways that I know of to overturn this decision is another Supreme reversal or a Constitutional Amendment.
208 posted on 06/23/2005 8:34:40 AM PDT by Skip1
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To: Helmholtz
Best of luck to any who own prime land.

Pave over the farm and build a Walmart. After all it is better for the "village" that things bet taken from us for the betterment of the whole.
209 posted on 06/23/2005 8:35:21 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Helmholtz
We have met the enemy, and they are within.
(With apologies to Pogo and Savage.)
210 posted on 06/23/2005 8:35:31 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Excrementum Occurum)
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To: SoFloFreeper

bush is about to appoint 'speedy' gonzalez


211 posted on 06/23/2005 8:35:35 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: junta


Target every single member of Congress.

Get all the addresses of their private homes.

Go before their local town councils, board of supervisors, whatever, and propose converting their private homes into office buildings.

Just watch what would happen.


212 posted on 06/23/2005 8:36:16 AM PDT by FD_Pilot
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To: Tatze

"This court is gotten so far out of line, it is almost treasonous. They are basing decisions on public opinion, on international law, on international opinion. What ever happened to basing decisions on THE CONSTITUTION??"

You forgot to mention those pesky emanations of penumbras.


213 posted on 06/23/2005 8:36:30 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Jaysun
I hope Krystal was right this morning when he said that O'Connor is getting ready to retire.

I think you got the wrong person here. Those 5, led by the Stevens need some medical marijuana pronto.

214 posted on 06/23/2005 8:36:45 AM PDT by Basil314
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To: Fury
I'd recommend the book written by Carry Okie. It's must reading after the decision of the USSC.

Thanks for the plug. This ruling is an outrage, no matter what the justification. The court is obviously ignorant on how holding private property rights inviolate works to eliminate the need for "planning," much less government control of what constitutes "the public good."

215 posted on 06/23/2005 8:36:46 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: OB1kNOb

I can't wait to hear Savage tonight.


216 posted on 06/23/2005 8:36:59 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: BikerNYC

Like all the other recent stands he has taken lately? The silence will be deafening


217 posted on 06/23/2005 8:37:16 AM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Graymatter

My first idea for dealing with this is a violation of the Terms of Use here. Anything I express here is filtered. In this case. Heavily.


218 posted on 06/23/2005 8:37:47 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: MamaTexan

When it comes to crap like this have you ever wondered how a city gov't. that's essentially a corporate legal fiction can somehow gain control over living souls? How have we come to a point where agents for these corps. can run roughshod over it's citizens....whether it's code enforcers, econ.development, tax appraisers, etc. what gives them the right to enter the private affairs of citizens?


219 posted on 06/23/2005 8:37:48 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: RFEngineer
I'm saying that this is the practical effect.

If my neighbor wanted to expand his house and use E.D. to get it, I would be thrilled. I'll take the check now.

But if I owned a large parcel of land that had much more potential value than what I was using it for -- say a junkyard -- then I would be hosed.

I suppose the retired would be effected as well, having no intention to ever sell.

220 posted on 06/23/2005 8:37:53 AM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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