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Why do people vote for Communists?
Mises.org ^ | June 16, 2005 | Luca Ferrini

Posted on 06/22/2005 5:14:38 AM PDT by America First Libertarian

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1 posted on 06/22/2005 5:14:39 AM PDT by America First Libertarian
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To: America First Libertarian

Welcome to Free Republic.


2 posted on 06/22/2005 5:17:53 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: America First Libertarian

I would wonder why so many vote for the commies here in the US. There is more commie sympathy here in the US than most would admit. But you already knew that..


3 posted on 06/22/2005 5:18:13 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Extraordinary Circumstances- proving PT Barnum was right..)
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To: America First Libertarian

Because idiots want cradle-to-grave security and care and don't want to have to THINK for themselves.


4 posted on 06/22/2005 5:27:49 AM PDT by deadeyedawg
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To: BulletBobCo; America First Libertarian
ditto on the welcome to the freep, AFL...

"...Even the US (actually two)..."

The Dhimmicrat party is one; which is the other?

5 posted on 06/22/2005 5:29:50 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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"... some people, by virtue of having been socialized under statist conditions, are not attracted to the responsibility that comes with the idea of freedom."

I have read that the Russian brand of Communism was a trade off for the old Tsarist system. Peasants were of course accustomed to the 'paternalism' of the Tsarist rule, oppressive and humiliating as it was...it took care of them. Communism was the same resignation of one's will to a larger higher authority, no questions asked. It was going to all be worked out for you, all decisions made for you and all problems solved by someone else. Russians gained nothing lost nothing and learned nothing. Now that a free market system is being attempted, of course, people fall through the cracks. Until the thing is stabilized, and even after, people will still fall through the cracks. All Capitalist systems have it and always will. This is the chink in our armor and the place Liberals perpetually jab to force their more total and radical socialist plans on us. Stupid. y Gasset said ..."Communism, now there is a piece of moral extravagance." He was right!
6 posted on 06/22/2005 5:30:53 AM PDT by SMARTY
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Because of rage at their own inability to master their destiny, they really want to crush the achievement of others under the guise of fairness and equality.


7 posted on 06/22/2005 5:31:53 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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Communist like our own Democrats, offer something for nothing. The ignorant sometime believe such a thing is possible.


8 posted on 06/22/2005 5:33:30 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yeow! That's probably more closer to the truth than anyone knows!

Well done.


9 posted on 06/22/2005 5:34:02 AM PDT by deadeyedawg
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To: America First Libertarian

It will likely take a full generation for the communist countries to adjust to freedom. But it will happen.


10 posted on 06/22/2005 5:35:15 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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"By taking away from us the responsibility of our actions, and prolonging the dependency stage of life, the democratic interventionist state limits our ability to be happy."

"democratic interventionist state" has brought us to point where private property in this country is declared "public places" then you cannot even smoke a cigerette in the now declared "public place."

"...at the same time they ask for their own wishes to be satisfied by others and for their own mistakes to be paid by others."

Sounds alot like Social Security, Medicaid, American with Disabilities Act, FDIC, FDA, FHA, SBA, Pension Guaranty Fund, WIC, Food Stamps, and the list goes on.

And to think we spent billions and billions of dollars during the "cold war" years, for decades, to fight communism and it now exists, without objection by virtually anyone in this country, enacted and approved by both democrats and republicans.

11 posted on 06/22/2005 5:40:26 AM PDT by tahiti
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I think for some it's even simpler than that. Some people who feel they've been wronged (whether justified or not) blame the system they live under for what happened. So when someone comes along with a utopian idea of a different system, it thus sounds good to them. The actual nature of the system isn't as important as the fact that it opposes capitalism.

That's why the Communist Party used to recruit heavily among ethnic and religious minorities who had faced discrimination. The recruiters would just tell them lies like "All races are equal in communism" or "There is no anti-semitism in the USSR" and they'd buy it.


12 posted on 06/22/2005 5:48:34 AM PDT by Phocion (Abolish the 16th Amendment.)
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Hmmm, with Czechs the situation is a bit different. You see in most post-communist countries the communist parties have no real power, but the "social-democrats" (who are usually just ex-communists, that say that they changed their views) do. These "social-democratic" parties now of course say that they favor "social market economy" and that they don't want the return of communism (the ex-communists are now ruling in Poland, Hungary and Romania). You have to nevertheless remember that many people would actually welcome the return of realsoc (mostly old people who were members of the communist party, who hate church, the United States etc. but also many people who had a guaranteed job during communism and are now jobless) and they usually vote for ex-communists (who usually get at least 20% of the vote, during the last election in Poland post-communists got over 40% of the vote and that in an overwhelmingly Catholic country). In the Czech Republic, however, the commies didn't change their banners and their party is called Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia and they still say that communism was great and that they would love to see it back in the their country. On the other hand the social-democratic party consists mostly of members of the former anticommunist opposition (which is not the case in other eastern European countries). So it is no surprise that people who would like the return of communism in the Czech Republic don't vote for former anticommunists but rather for hardcore commies. Also remember that communism in the Czech Republic wasn't probably as bad as in other eastern European countries and the country was much richer than f.ex. Poland or Hungary (remember that Czechoslovakia was rather undamaged during WW II and that prior to it, it was one of the richest countries in Europe).


13 posted on 06/22/2005 5:48:53 AM PDT by Tarkin (Janice Rogers Brown to the SCOTUS)
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The Dhimmicrat party is one; which is the other?

The Green Party.

14 posted on 06/22/2005 5:51:01 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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People vote communist, and its first cousin liberalism, because they think you can get something for nothing.


15 posted on 06/22/2005 5:54:39 AM PDT by libertylover (Liberal: A blatant liar who likes to spend other people's money.)
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To: R. Scott
Dems (and New Labour as well) are actually nowhere near European socialists (or European communists for that matter). Remember that Bill Clinton would very likely be considered a right-winger in continental Europe or at least a right-leaning centrist (hell, Chirac is considered to be a "hardcore right wing extremist" by many socialists in France).
16 posted on 06/22/2005 5:54:43 AM PDT by Tarkin (Janice Rogers Brown to the SCOTUS)
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All things are relative when it comes to politics. American Democrats, Socialists and even Communists know that they have to start gradually and work their way down. If any party were to try and push to change our system to a communist / socialist from its traditional republic/capitalist (it’s already moving from a republic to a democracy) it would be guaranteed to fail – as the Communist Party USA discovered.


17 posted on 06/22/2005 6:03:18 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: America First Libertarian

Read later bump.


18 posted on 06/22/2005 6:08:22 AM PDT by auboy
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Vote for communists = "One man, one vote...once."


19 posted on 06/22/2005 6:11:10 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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Because they went to college.


20 posted on 06/22/2005 6:16:14 AM PDT by The Toll
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