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Friends say man killed in courthouse shooting frustrated by child support system
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| 06/21/05
| Curt Woodward
Posted on 06/21/2005 9:19:50 PM PDT by Fido969
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This happens SO OFTEN now that even the dullest person will have to start getting some awareness that there is a huge problem with the court child support system.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:19:51 PM PDT
by
Fido969
To: Fido969
If he'd kept it in his pants, he might still be wearing them.
To: snarks_when_bored
I think he made his point. The "ultimate sacrifice" as it were.
I take it that you never took it out of your pants, then?
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:27:31 PM PDT
by
Fido969
To: Fido969
The media + lawyers + activist judges is the defacto government of the United States nowadays. This guy found out a little too late.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:27:50 PM PDT
by
Justa
(Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
To: Fido969
...the divorced father of three children, ages 26, 23 and 22 So why was he still paying child support? His problem wasn't the family courts, but having the world's worst lawyer.
To: Fido969
I take it that you never took it out of your pants, then?
Incorrectomundo.
To: Fido969
Being right smack in the middle of the ugliness that are family courts in Texas, I'm suprised folks don't go postal more often than is the case.
Personally, I think there are better ways. Right now I'm working towards making "support" payments taxable income for the payee and tax-deductable for the payer (or, even better, come out of pre-tax dollars).
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:31:04 PM PDT
by
zeugma
(Democrats and muslims are varelse...)
To: Fido969
My experience & observation is that the whole thing is anti-father BIG TIME.
To: snarks_when_bored
Incorrectomundo.Fonzie, is that you?
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:33:33 PM PDT
by
Horatio Gates
(Peas through superior fertilizer!)
To: zeugma
In some countries they used to be - until the government figured out that they were losing tax revenue because the payer is usually in a higher tax bracket. So they stopped making them deductible.
Anyway, so much for the "for the children" thing.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:35:56 PM PDT
by
Fido969
To: Fido969
I think he made his pointI hope you're right but "his suicide by cop" was in vain. Washington State won'r be changing it's suppoet enforcement regs any time soon.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:36:39 PM PDT
by
Horatio Gates
(Peas through superior fertilizer!)
To: shotokan
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:37:35 PM PDT
by
Horatio Gates
(Peas through superior fertilizer!)
To: Fido969
You're acting as though you think this guy should be recognized as a hero instead of a suicidal nutbar.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:39:05 PM PDT
by
Melas
(Lives in state of disbelief)
To: shotokan
Incorrectomundo. Fonzie, is that you?
Fonzie? It's Mr. Fonzarelli to you, karate boy.
To: Fido969
Inert Grenade bought at any surplus store
Suicide by Cop
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:41:17 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
To: Fido969
That is one way to cure frustration.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:41:59 PM PDT
by
Jeff Gordon
(Recall Barbara Boxer)
To: Texas_Jarhead
My experience & observation is that the whole thing is anti-father BIG TIME. You're right. In California, a man who is named as "father" on a birth certificate has to pay child support whether he's the father of the child or not. A Los Angeles D.A. actually bragged and smiled about this in a news conference a few years back. He was defeated in the next election.
To: Fido969
As unfair and as biased as the courts may be with regard to this issue (yes, I know of this firsthand) let's not forget that he brought a HAND GRENADE into a courthouse. Letting an "unfair" court judgment of $8,200 lead you into an obsession like this is more indicative of a mental disease than frustration.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:43:52 PM PDT
by
spinestein
(See Dick talk. See Dick rant. See Dick compare the U.S. to Hitler and Stalin. Don't be a DICK!)
To: janetgreen
Gil Garcetti. He is generally considered to be a "radical feminist". He started the whole paternity fraud controversy - he refused to allow fathers to be relieved of support obligations when they proved they were not the father. Led to a big California court case.
Garcetti lost his last reelection bid in a landslide. I think he was then appointed to the LA county ethics board. The guy is truly a creep.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:50:19 PM PDT
by
Fido969
To: Texas_Jarhead
I beg to differ. I have friends and family, and acquaintances who have been abandoned by their children's father and were forced to become the sole provider of the family. A tremendous burden on the family.
I would agree that the system is flawed, but history has revealed that more often than not, a parent can't rely on the hope that their former spouse will responsibly provide child support for their child(ren).
"But McGill said he didn't think Manley intended to be killed by police on Monday."
Manley was wearing cammies, carried a grenade that was inactive, court papers, a living will, and made a "furtive move" towards police, and he had no desire to be killed? Mr. McGill is in denial, or has failed to grasp the seriousness of the events that unfolded shortly before Manley was killed.
According to what has been reported, it would appear that Manley may have had some psychological problems. Did he leave his high paying job just so his wife and children couldn't get his money?! Did he object to the amount? It costs a lot of money to raise three children.
Regardless, a very sad and unnecessary end to Mr. Manley's life.
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posted on
06/21/2005 9:52:09 PM PDT
by
This Just In
("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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