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To: Texas_Jarhead
I beg to differ. I have friends and family, and acquaintances who have been abandoned by their children's father and were forced to become the sole provider of the family. A tremendous burden on the family.

I would agree that the system is flawed, but history has revealed that more often than not, a parent can't rely on the hope that their former spouse will responsibly provide child support for their child(ren).

"But McGill said he didn't think Manley intended to be killed by police on Monday."

Manley was wearing cammies, carried a grenade that was inactive, court papers, a living will, and made a "furtive move" towards police, and he had no desire to be killed? Mr. McGill is in denial, or has failed to grasp the seriousness of the events that unfolded shortly before Manley was killed.

According to what has been reported, it would appear that Manley may have had some psychological problems. Did he leave his high paying job just so his wife and children couldn't get his money?! Did he object to the amount? It costs a lot of money to raise three children.

Regardless, a very sad and unnecessary end to Mr. Manley's life.
20 posted on 06/21/2005 9:52:09 PM PDT by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: This Just In
Did he leave his high paying job just so his wife and children couldn't get his money?! Did he object to the amount?

He was homeless and broke.

I'd guess even when he could get a job, they probably garnished at least half of his take home pay. Lessee, $8 an hour, times 40 is $320. Net about $275 or so, they take half, he gets about $140 a week to live on.

A studio apartment in Seattle is about $500 a month, so that leaves about 422 a week for food, clothes and transportation. (Amazing that smug folks posting here could say there's nothing wrong with that.)

I can see why he would want to kill himself. And bravo for not doing it alone somewhere - like most of the 10,000 men a year do that kill themselves.

At least bleed all over the bastards that screwed you. Or at least ruin their lunch.

25 posted on 06/21/2005 10:01:15 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: This Just In
I have friends and family, and acquaintances who have been abandoned by their children's father and were forced to become the sole provider of the family. A tremendous burden on the family.

Most fathers the state establishes arbitrary child support orders against have not "abandoned" their children. Also, most custodial parents can afford to provide for the family after they discard the father, although at a greater burden than when they enjoyed two incomes. Responsible parents with children don't get divorced for "no-fault." There is simply not enough information to make this call.

52 posted on 07/06/2005 11:02:31 AM PDT by right2parent (www.citizensrule.net)
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I think the courts tend to favor the more ruthless party. As far as the left is concerned, the courts can be detrimental to the mother and the father, because both of those cases favor the left by damaging traditional society.


58 posted on 07/06/2005 11:28:09 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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