Islamic Group Calls for Use of Koran to Take Oath

CSN News ^ | June 21, 2005 | Melanie Hunter

[cardinal4]

The Koran teaches its adherents to lie to save the faith. If this is allowed, there will still be no prayer in schools for infidels, but the follwers of Allah will be accommodated..

[Modernman]

I don't see why this is such a big deal.

Because some Freepers are afraid that letting a Muslim swear on a Koran will lead to the downfall of America.

Bring your own book and swear on whatever you want, is my feeling. You're still liable for perjury, no matter what.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

You gotta be kidding me. Any elected official who swears upon a Koran should be impeached and imprisoned the very next nansecond.

[Finalapproach29er]

Many of you guys are crazy. Letting Muslims into America is a presciption for endless war. Look at the Middle East for G--'s sake.

If America ceases to be a Judeo-Christian nation, you can to the Bill of Rights in the trash cause it is incompatable with Islam and the Koran.

Just my humble opinion..........

[Roccus]

Those that would lie, will lie. Those that would tell the truth, will do so. No book will change this.

[Modernman]

Any elected official who swears upon a Koran should be impeached and imprisoned the very next nansecond.

Why? Presumably, the people who elected him knew he was a Muslim, so why should it be a problem that he swears on a Koran when he takes office?

[Ignatius J Reilly]

"And what about atheists?"

Good budy of mine is an ex-marine, conservative, patriotic, professor of history and an atheist. His suggestion (for him) would be to swear on the Constitution. A document he knows loves and worships (as much as he worships anything).

Oh and he would gut me like a hog if he knew I called him and EX-marine. What the heck do you call Marines who are no longer in the service?

[tet68]

I think we should make them swear on a stick of TNT, then
place it under the witness chair as an added incentive.

[Alouette]

Using different books for everyone.

There are some religious sects (J witnesses come to mind) that don't allow swearing oaths of any kind. Some Orthodox Jews will also not swear in a court of law. It has nothing to do with what scriptures are being used, swearing in a secular court is considered by some as taking G-D's name in vain.

Courts have admitted witnesses by "affirmation" saying "Do you affirm to tell the truth?" leaving out "so help you G-D." I believe that in the 18th century this form of testimony was called a "Quaker oath."

[BMC1]

Sorry you don't like my caps but I got the point across.

If you want to change something, you do it by increments.

Have you ever heard the story of the frog in a pot of water?

If you put a frog in a pot of water he won't jump out. If you turn on the heat under that part of water, by the time it gets too hot, he can jump out. IT'S TOO LATE.

Get the point now?

[Roccus]

Marines.

[D Rider]

Ah, scuze mem but that dirty book contains an explicit permission to lie to non-believers, so any oath taken on it would be pointless.

Ah, scuze mem but that dirty book contains an explicit permission to lie to non-believers, so any oath taken on it would be pointless.

Deserves repeating.

[SittinYonder]

makes sense to me to have a muslim swear the quaran

It's not the swearing on the Bible (or any other religious text) that requires one to be truthful, and in Georgia witnesses don't swear on a Bible at all. It's the law of the land that requires them to be truthful ... ie. perjury.

[Peach]

I don't know; once a Marine, always a Marine I thought.

[chris1]

What book should Satanists use?

[BMC1]

Good! I'll take my academy award now.

Thank you very much.

[Modernman]

What book should Satanists use?

Don't know. Ask them.

[jimfree]

I'm a little surprised we haven't had these complaints before. The article points out the "affirmation" exemption, but I suppose I can appreciate the islamists argument. Regardless, right or wrong, my indifference toward Islam turned to bitterness after 9/11.

Hey Andy. (I don't mean to sound like Gomer or Goober.)

My indifference turned to many things as well. As to whether the judges can decide whether to honor an establishment of religion (Bible but none others), I think the 1st Amendment is very clear on that.

[atlanta67]

baby steps..baby steps...

eventually youll have to swear by the Koran