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Let us all hope that the mullahs will be cast out of office1

When I came across this article it brought to mind a posting a saw on DU just a few minutes ago. One of their oh so superior (in their own mind) people had comment he said came from a FR posting regarding Iran. Of course, he did not provide a link. He just put down what he CLAIMED to have seen here. But the more interesting thing is the first response he got to it where a DUmmiesaid the following:

"I use to troll a little bit at FR. They have always been messed up, but they are much worse now. Here are the reasons (1) they kicked out anybody who was half intelligent, therefore had some sort of independent thought. (2) If anything is anti-Democrat, anti-progressive, it is right. (3) Most of these people live in bunkers and homeschool their kids, so they pollute them even more, and only read out of the King James. Very sad. In some cases I think they need child services to monitor these people. One time, and I wish I still had the evidenced one guy was advocating beating your wives. Only a few sane people denounced him. They have probably all since been banned." (ollie79)

The thing this guy does not realize is that with regards to #1 in his post, DU is worse than any other site on the web. Disagree with any standard dem position and you are banned in moments. Unlike here. I have disagreed with many people here on many issues. I have not been banned.

Unlike the DUmmie I WILL post a link so anyone who wishes can click and see how they are reagrded by these "progressive" people.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3907775

In my view there is no hope for these people. They are lost in their own hypocrisy.

Forgive me but I have become confused.
1) Are the Reformist Movement and the Student Movement one and the same, or at least on the same side?
2) What candidate are the Students/Reformist's supporting?
3) Iran va Jahan laments the fact that although the vote rigging allegations in the first round of the elections in Iran are the most blatant, the world media is silent.

Most everything I have heard regarding the elections is that they were indeed fraudulent. I will admit I receive most of my news from the internet. Sec. of State Rice even made a statement to that effect today. Are the Iranians not receiving this news?

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/33742bde-e1ff-11d9-bf18-00000e2511c8.html

Tehran's mayor has Rafsanjani on defensive
By Gareth Smyth in Tehran
Published: June 21 2005 03:00 | Last updated: June 21 2005 03:00

Since he became mayor of Tehran two years ago, Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad has not taken a holiday. He drives an old Peugeot, prays regularly and lives a simple life.

On Friday Mr Ahmadi-Nejad, 49, takes on a leading figure of Iran's Islamic republic, Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, 71, in a run-off ballot to decide the next president.

Mr Rafsanjani's camp says the choice is between a pragmatist who believes in dialogue with the west and private enterprise, and a hard-line xenophobe who dislikes foreign investment.

Mr Ahmadi-Nejad's strategy is to portray himself as a "Man of the People" - a sharp contrast to the life style Mr Rafsanjani and his family are alleged to lead. Mr Ahmadi-Nejad's supporters say he is a "fundamentalist", a man true to the egalitarianism of Iran's the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

The Rafsanjani camp is taking no chances: for the election's second round, the campaign has jettisoned mixed parties and loud street music, which they used to attract younger voters but which alienated many in conservative Iran.

Mr Ahmadi-Nejad's supporters have rebutted the charge that their patron opposes the private sector, stressing Tehran council's contracts with Chinese companies for the new metro, its $200m (EUR243m, £133m) international loan to renovate old Tehran, and its talks with European companies on projects such as waste management.

They emphasise that Mr Ahmadi-Nejad's sober attitude to running city hall is a model for running Iran. The atmosphere is focused - and clearly Islamic. There is calligraphy on the walls and women staff wear chadors, the head-to-toe covering.

Mehdi Chamran, the council's chairman, says the mayor's main achievements are "scientific management" of the city's first development plan for 37 years and his "links with the people".

With the revolution, Mr Ahmadi-Nejad joined the Basij, an Islamic militia, and worked as an engineer in the 1980-88 war with Iraq. His administrative talents led to posts in the west and north-west until, in the late 1990s he became governor-general of the northern province of Ardabil. Like many, he was frustrated at what he saw as weakening commitment to the revolution's ideals.

In the run-up to Tehran's 2003 municipal elections, a group of fundamentalists formed Abadgaran ('Developers'), a list to challenge a council paralysed by in-fighting and corruption allegations. The poll ended a run of reformist victories in Iran. In 2004 fundamentalists nationwide took a similar approach to Abadgaran and won control of parliament after the disqualification of many reformist candidates.

Go ahead and wish, show yourself to these people and convert them. As a nation we cannot win a single person to love us, or worship Jesus by sending money to their leaders. The only way is through ministries and personal contact, not from taxing Americans.

Islamic fundamentalism spreads on the back of ignorance, poverty, and hopelessness, just like communism did. During the Cold War we spent a lot of money to mitigate the effects of poverty, hopelessness, and ignorance in order to lessen the breeding ground for communism. Some folks didn't like it, but it worked. Helping Africa progress is no different as a strategic measure. You go ahead and try to kill every mosquito separately and ignore the swamp and Bush will go ahead and put a little insecticide in the swamp water. We'll see which strategy has the bigger effect.

The Islamic Republic Embassy in Ottawa, Canada was attacked by group of angry Iranians on June 16th, 2005.