Posted on 06/20/2005 3:27:04 PM PDT by blam
They got to SE Asia 40-70,000 years ago and they are not related to African Pygmies (no more than you are).
Silly, the map was on the Nazca Plain, easily visible from the air.
According to history passed down the old way, my ancestors came from Southeast Asia. Native Americans were said to have come from the same region. They went by land while my ancestors by sea.
Kennewick Man is Ainu. Some of his kind are still alive in Japan today.
This has nothing to do with the topic, but your dogs are absolutely adorable. Hehe!!
LOL... according to Muslims, islam is the "din al fitrah" (the original religion or the "primordial religion") so way back pre-history, we all started off by being Muslims! Whooda thunk it?
I'm going to go look for the cave paintings of my great great (x10) grandma in burka now, so I may not be back for a while...
Thor Heyerdahl was proved completely wrong through DNA evidence; The Polynesians are from South Asia orginally and don't have anything in common genetically with any of the South American Indians.
We don't have the foggiest idea what color Kennewick Man's skin was.
Scientists do not have an especially good record when all agree on some untestable theory. (My degrees are in Math - Physics and Math BTW. It's not like I haven't had a scientific education.) I do not deny that there is some reasonable basis for the conclusion, but I still think it is absurd to think that anyone could set out in a canoe for someplace thousands of ocean miles away. Tell me, do you think the women just went along for the ride, or do you think the men came back for them?
ML/NJ
I guess we're having trouble with the English language. If ten set out and die at sea, or someplace else (missing it completely), and one makes it to Hawaii, then the answer to my question would be eleven. Maybe you could help me find a simpler way to express this?
ML/NJ
Interesting post.
(Actually, the liberals discovered California, and the rest is histrionics.)
The "Europeans" had significantly larger vessels with their significantly greater ability to carry provisions, and probably had the collective advantage of using the Mediterranean as a proving ground. Columbus and those other trans-Atlantic guys also had a target quite a bit larger than Hawaii.
This has nothing to do with being a savage. (&FTR I do not believe that the Indians were "savages.") You seem somewhat sensitive about this though.
ML/NJ
Have you ever seen a Polynesian ocean-going canoe?
The only thing that doesn't make sense is why they didn't succeed in California, they were quite adept at colonizing every livable piece of land in the Pacific.
Maybe?
It's hard to separate fact from fiction at the (NYC) Museum of Natural History.
ML/NJ
I grew up in central Ca with a Hawaiian dad...Finally moved to Waianae, Oahu in the early 80's to explore the family "roots", and was amazed by the reaction of the Hawaiians to the spanish language (I speak pretty well for a hapa-haole). My kids' friends would gather at our gate and ask me to come out and "talk dat way" They would sit there transfixed while I gave them the standard "come esta usted" and "mi nombre es Paco" etc. I often have said that Hawaiians could be adventurous Mexicans with long canoes!
I'm really not sensitive to the issue. I've grown up learning both sides of these opinions. I will kindly disagree with you. I believe my ancestors were quite capable of sailing the vast oceans. I believe they were just as competent in navigating the oceans as any of their European counterparts.
I figure God will let us all know when we're all ready to know the answer.
Great post!
Although, I know one of my Polynesian FReeper relatives would not find your post to be amusing in the least. My oldest had an opportunity to visit Hawaii, American Samoa, Tahiti, Tonga, New Zealand, and Australia this summer. He would be taking the summer to find out more of his Polynesian roots. My son is absolutely not interested. My little one was ready to go the day it was mentioned to him. He is too young to go, but I believe he'll love the experience in another 5 years.
Interesting. Do you happen to have a cite for that? I'd like to know what Indian populations were tested, etc.
So, only whites can sail to places far away? How tacky.
Were the Phoenicians white?
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