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Flag Protection: New Poll Shows Over 80 Percent of Americans Support It
US Newswire ^ | 6/20/05

Posted on 06/20/2005 10:35:24 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

A newly released independent poll confirms that the vast majority of Americans want the U.S. Flag protected from acts of desecration.

The random poll of 1,004 adults nation-wide was conducted by the Opinion Research Corporation June 16-19. In responding to the question how important do you think it is to make flag desecration against the law, 81 percent said it was somewhat to extremely important. Another 75 percent said they wanted Congress to pass a flag protection constitutional amendment.

The poll echoes numerous others conducted since a 1989 U.S. Supreme Court decision overturned five previous courts and made flag desecration legal. Poll after poll indicated that between 75 percent and 80 percent of the public support legal protection of Old Glory from physical acts of desecration.

"I'm delighted but not surprised that this poll again confirms what we already know," said Thomas P. Cadmus, national commander of The American Legion. "When asked a straight forward question, most Americans will give you a straight answer -- protect Old Glory."

The U.S. House of Representatives is expected to vote on HJR- 10, the flag protection amendment this week.

Only 28 percent of those surveyed said they would be likely to vote for someone who is opposed to protecting the U.S. Flag.

Complete poll results are available online at http://www.legion.org.

"The people have spoken again loud and clear," Cadmus said. "I urge Members of Congress to heed the voices of the people and the call of all 50 state legislatures. Pass the flag protection amendment now."

The poll has a 3 percent margin of error.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flag; flagamendment; flagburning; flagprotection; news; oldglory
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I can't wait to see how the courts try to define what a flag is (do the small plastic ones count; those on the ends of toothpicks; patches that are sewn on; a cloth flag with 49 stars; those on clothing) and what constitutes desecration (leaving it out in the rain; failure to illuminate at night).


21 posted on 06/20/2005 11:34:54 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: highball
beat you. ;)

Yeah, but I caught the comment first!
We both fixed on the circular logic of the comment.

22 posted on 06/20/2005 11:36:16 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: TheOtherOne

I'm willing to call it a tie. ;)


23 posted on 06/20/2005 11:38:03 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Over 80% are wrong....


24 posted on 06/20/2005 11:38:08 AM PDT by dakine
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To: NJ_gent

25 posted on 06/20/2005 11:38:10 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
My bumper sticker makes my position clear I believe.

I never saw an American flag burned at a gun show.

26 posted on 06/20/2005 11:40:26 AM PDT by badpacifist (American media...Petty is their nature , tragic their effect.)
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To: gdani
"How many of the 80% have worn American flags flying on the outside of their cars where they are constantly snowed & rained on?"

Or fly their flags 24/7, regardless of weather.
27 posted on 06/20/2005 11:40:33 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I know that many of us are fed up with the gov.org that we have now. At some point down the road chances are they will have to be toppled, (hopefully not anytime soon).

My question is at what point does the flag represent the gov.org and everything they do wrong. Most of us here will say that the flag represents what out founding fathers did. Nonetheless I have a feeling that future generations might not feel the same.

The same thing applies to the pledge of allegiance. Is there a fine line between pledging allegiance to what the flag use to stand for and what our gov.org does in the name of the flag?


28 posted on 06/20/2005 11:40:40 AM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: NC28203
I can't wait to see how the courts try to define what a flag is (do the small plastic ones count; those on the ends of toothpicks; patches that are sewn on; a cloth flag with 49 stars; those on clothing) and what constitutes desecration (leaving it out in the rain; failure to illuminate at night).

Aside from the item you mentioned... If they passed this amendment, it will take about two minutes for a smart capitalist to make a 'non-flag' just for desecrating that looks like a US flag but maybe has umm, 51 stars or 14 stripes. What then?

29 posted on 06/20/2005 11:41:08 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
New Poll Shows Over 80 Percent of Americans Support It

And these same 80 percent are the ones that can't see past a letter to vote for a candidate. I'm sure the Framers would be excited that the majority of the citizens of the respective states are for a constitutional amendment to protect a symbol. Maybe we can get a constitutional amendment passed so all the little kiddies will be forced to say a socialist pledge to it every morning in school as well.

30 posted on 06/20/2005 11:41:42 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: so_real
After all, the flag is symbolic of the Pledge of Allegiance. Once allegiance is gone, so goes citizenship.

Really. And to think this nation of states was able to last over 100 years before a socialist wrote a 'pledge' to a piece of cloth.

31 posted on 06/20/2005 11:43:35 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: gdani
How many of the 80% have worn American flags flying on the outside of their cars where they are constantly snowed & rained on?

That bothers me when I see it.

A little off-topic, but even worse, in my humble opinion, is exposing the scared name and symbols of Christ to the elements by displaying them on bumper stickers and such.

32 posted on 06/20/2005 11:54:40 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: so_real
After all, the flag is symbolic of the Pledge of Allegiance.

How could the flag even remotely be symbolic of the pledge? What came first, the chicken or the egg?

33 posted on 06/20/2005 11:59:59 AM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: dakine
Over 80% are wrong....

Surprised?

34 posted on 06/20/2005 12:02:22 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: SupplySider
"even worse, in my humble opinion, is exposing the scared name and symbols of Christ to the elements by displaying them on bumper stickers and such."

Was Christ not exposed to the elements while he was on the cross?
35 posted on 06/20/2005 12:08:49 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: TheOtherOne

"If they passed this amendment, it will take about two minutes for a smart capitalist to make a 'non-flag' just for desecrating that looks like a US flag but maybe has umm, 51 stars or 14 stripes. What then?"

Then it's not a real American flag and wouldn't make any difference.

Would it?


36 posted on 06/20/2005 12:13:35 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: TheOtherOne; billbears; houeto
Either you get dizzy easier than I do, or you are mincing words. I can't think of a greater symbolism of allegiance to these United States of America than "OLD GLORY" herself. (The Pledge of Allegiance being a vocalization of that sentiment.) I may not waste time with busy-body congressman proposing silly laws and amendments like this one. But I absolutely don't waste time with pukes burning, or defend anothers burning, of the Flag as some anti-American political statement. Citizens *act* like citizens rather than just wearing the term like a badge.
37 posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:44 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

Worst mea culpa ever.


38 posted on 06/20/2005 12:16:26 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: NJ_gent
Was Christ not exposed to the elements while he was on the cross?

Tattered, torn, beaten, mocked, bruised and bleeding.

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the Republic, of which it governs, one Nation, answering to God, with Liberty and Justice for all.

The flag is but a symbol.

39 posted on 06/20/2005 12:21:52 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: Codeflier
The flag is a potent symbol. It has meaning far beyond its form and color.

Instead of making flag-burning illegal, another way to to approach this is to pass a law recognizing in each person a privilege to use reasonable force, short of deadly force, to protect a flag from being abused. In places like Berkeley or Boston flag burners would be completely safe because no one would care. In places like Texas and Wyoming, a flag burner might get a well deserved punch in the nose.

40 posted on 06/20/2005 12:22:25 PM PDT by JCEccles
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