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To: HKMk23

oh how you must wish to be me. only i don't like escelades, i have a jag, sorry.

my point is that most people want public employees to have the same rights as everybody only when it hurts them. where were you when they took away their right to strike?

i think you're trying to be consistent here, but your rantings seem to get in the way. and your opinion of public workers is a tad skewed by pre-conceptions and negative stereotypes. don't let envy riun your conception of equality and fairness.

cheers


6 posted on 06/21/2005 11:14:38 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: camle

> oh how you must wish to be me...
I like being me just fine, thanks, and, as nice as it may be, I wouldn't want your Jag unless it's an old classic. Not that I'm a Jag expert, but I haven't really liked much they've put on the street since the 60's. Not a bash, just my preference.

> ...don't let envy riun your conception of equality and fairness.
Envious? Me? Hardly! I guess it's all a matter of confidence. I cut my own groove and I think highly enough of my fellow man that I expect him to do the same for himself. If the next guy needs a third-party organization to cut a deal for him, I think that's a shame.

Also, FWIW, I had private sector union trade workers in mind as I was pounding out my last rant, so your defense of public-sector employees is misplaced.

Look, I try to be a reasoable guy. I would very much like it if pulic- and private- sector employees had the same realities in their work experiences. I think everyone ought to be free to make an honest living and to stand or fall strictly on their own merits. That means that every employer ought to be able to retain or release individual workers whenever they need to. I have a family member who is LACoFD; I know the realities that are in play JUST because of the labor org. Weird stuff that would NEVER enter the reasonable mind is going on all the time just because the union has various policies about everything. Frankly, it all needs to go out the window so each employee can stand on their own two feet.

THAT would be fair and equitable. Can we get there? No. To do so would require an entire generation -- or three -- to appear that held up personal responsibility as a paramount ideal and refused on both sides of the equation to coddle the present organized labor paradigm. A whole nation of employers AND employees would have to simultaneously reject the labor orgs in favor of individual contracts and being personally responsible for one's own situation.

We'll get wiped out by an errant asteroid, first.


7 posted on 06/21/2005 12:59:54 PM PDT by HKMk23 (PROP 65. WARNING: This post may contain ideas known to the State of California to be conservative.)
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