Rice Warns Israel: Don't Stop with Gaza; Don't Create "Facts on the Ground" East of Jerusalem

DOS ^ | June 17, 2005

[Convert from ECUSA]

With Israel as the bone being tossed to the alligators in the hopes of pacifying the alligators.

[Convert from ECUSA]

"Unless the U.S. gives back all the land it swore the Indians could have through treaties, then everyone should shut their pie holes and stop cowtowing to terrorists."

Amen and right on!

[BringBackMyHUAC]

It's sure starting to look like it is possible for the US to someday be included in the "all nations" category below. It seems like so many of our elite politicians try to stab Israel in the back at every opportunity. Luckily, in most cases, when the people of America catch wind of their perfidy, they usually put a stop to it. It appears that Pres. Bush is just like his father when it comes to Israel. Is it possible that America could ever turn against Israel? Well the Bible prophecy below certainly seems to make it a possibility (assuming I am reading it correctly). At the very least, prophecies such as the one below should serve to keep us on our guard against leaders who would stab Israel in the back in the name of convenience, peace, prejudice, or presidential legacy:


“I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken….Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations…” (Zech 12:9; 14:2-4).

[Countyline]

"In terms of their ability to fight terror and what they do on a day-to-day basis, frankly I do think more could be done,
and we’ve talked about the need to deal with the fugitive issue in some of the cities so that the turnover of cities can continue.

We’ve talked about the need not to allow arrests to become revolving door arrests. And those are all extremely important steps that the Palestinians need to take."

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WOW! ... so that the turn over of cities can continue ...
Simply unbelievable. President Bush appears to be overreaching his powers. God forgive him. Bless Israel.

[Cinnamon Girl]

The ENTIRE MUSLIM world is motivated by their hatred of Israel, and daily call for its destruction. Palestinians are tools in that scheme. No muslim country wants them and helps them only to the extent that they can destroy Israel piece by piece.

[Convert from ECUSA]

"It's sure starting to look like it is possible for the US to someday be included in the "all nations" category below. It seems like so many of our elite politicians try to stab Israel in the back at every opportunity. Luckily, in most cases, when the people of America catch wind of their perfidy, they usually put a stop to it. It appears that Pres. Bush is just like his father when it comes to Israel. Is it possible that America could ever turn against Israel? Well the Bible prophecy below certainly seems to make it a possibility (assuming I am reading it correctly). At the very least, prophecies such as the one below should serve to keep us on our guard against leaders who would stab Israel in the back in the name of convenience, peace, prejudice, or presidential legacy."

Yes, it sadly (for the USA) looks that way. I keep having this hunch that James Baker and Bush Sr. with their Fraudi Arabian connections and clients are behind the scenes in all this.

[Realism]

I don't know what to say. Israel won the territory, fine, keep it, but at their own cost. Otherwise negotiate and retreat back to the original borders and defend them.

[IAF ThunderPilot]

Israel negotiated over the territories several times. It only received terror and more terror from the Palis.
The PLO was founded in 1964 (before 1967!!!) and its code said that Palestine must be free from the Jordan river to the sea- it means all of Israel must go.
Only in the 1990s the PA (PLO became PA) removed this code from its book. They did it in order to remove the clear fact of their intentions, and not because their intentions changed.

[timsbella]

I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to comprehend. Giving it back will only satisfy them for a short while. What they really want is for the Jews to be out of the middle east and off the face of the Earth. Keep it at our own cost? Our children's future is worth more to us that a piece of land, unlike the neighbours.

To paraphrase Golda - there will only be peace when they love their children more than they hate the Jews. Having a home country offers that protection.

Think about it. How much love does it take to strap a homicide vest on to your child? With love like that you'll see where they are before long...

[Alouette]

negotiate and retreat back to the original borders

The 1949 armistice lines are not official borders.

You mean the original borders of Israel the last time that it was a sovereign nation? Back in biblical times?

When did it ever happen before in history that the losers of a war demand unconditional surrender from the winners?

[Realism]

I'm well aware of Israel's plight and her right to exist.

[timsbella]

"Yes, it sadly (for the USA) looks that way. I keep having this hunch that James Baker and Bush Sr. with their Fraudi Arabian connections and clients are behind the scenes in all this."

One can only pray that Judeo-Christian blood is thicker than oil.

[Cinnamon Girl]

What? They were attacked when they had the "original borders." How does "giving it back" solve anything? Do you think the Arabs won't be exploiting the Golan and their snug position in east Jerusalem if Israel "gives it back?"

[sheik yerbouty]

Jerusalem is the eternal capitol of Isael and not part of some feral, fetid, jihadistan!

[sheik yerbouty]

The primary site of the jihad cancer, in any case, is Saudi Arabia.

[Bella_Bru]

I suppose then you also think the U.S. ought to give back our land to the Natives? Cali ought to go back to Mexico?

[Mulch]

Does you fact book mention anything about the feeble military attack on Israel by the Ahabs which allowed the Israelis to legally takeover those areas to protect themselves from further illegal aggression?

[timsbella]

it might be simpler if we could say there was only one primary site, but like the worst cancer it is metastasized. It exists wherever hatred of the Jews is in one's heart. Worldwide, an epidemic. The Pali cancer would be "treatable" if they didn't have Europe behind them for example.

[Realism]

How does "giving it back" solve anything?

And keeping it has solved what???? They need to make some brave moves or settle for more of the same. Continue killing terrorists and make the plans for the future of Israel not the terrorists, they'll claim victory regardless.

[Zivasmate]

I posted last night, and I do not know this for a fact, but the key reason I suspect for Bush's change of attitude about Israel has to do with none other than James Baker.

I believe Baker is working with Bush in some capacity to get his policies thru, and in exchange, Israel is being offered as a sacrificial lamb. We all remember, of course, Baker's statements about Israel and Jews under Bush 41.

Just a hunch, but I think I'm right.