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Rapid rise in rattlesnakes debated
San Diego Union Tribune Sign On San Diego.com ^ | 6-19-05 | Mike Lee

Posted on 06/20/2005 4:08:56 AM PDT by onyx

The message was clear for state fire crews training near Campo a few weeks ago: Lots of rattlesnakes are out and active as spring molts into summer.

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County wildlife and emergency personnel say the rattlesnake population is growing; others disagree. This sign at the Mission Trails Regional Park gives information about rattlesnakes, which may be found there.

In the span of a few hours, the fire team spotted at least four rattlers, including one that had to be removed from near the portable toilets.

"We are seeing rattlesnakes everywhere in the county this year, and they are very aggressive," said Matt Streck, spokesman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection in El Cajon.

That also may be the case across Southern California, where some park rangers and snake experts report finding more evidence than usual of the feared reptiles – even before the traditional late-summer peak season.

Others, however, question the supposedly rapid rise in rattlers, saying it's a bit of a stretch biologically.

Either way, commonly cited rattlesnake bite statistics are reassuring: More than half of the victims are young men trying to show off their snake-handling skills while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, say park officials and snakebite specialists.

Without a historical snake census, tracking rattlers in Southern California is mostly guesswork.

The theory in the "more snakes" camp is that heavy winter rains created a bumper crop of vegetation, which in turn provides abundant food and cover for rodents. Legions of rodents invite more snakes.

Skeptics say it's unlikely that the rattler population grew in a matter of months. They say a more probable explanation for increased sightings is that snakes are more active in years like this one, when they don't have to worry so much about conserving energy.

"Biologically, it doesn't make sense to me," Brian Cahill, spokesman for the Anza-Borrego Desert State Park, said of the purportedly swelling ranks of snakes. "Every step up the food chain, there is going to be a (time) lag. I just can't see that abundance of snakes just yet."

On that point, he's got backing from veteran San Diego trapper Thomas Lindemood.

Lindemood said the number of snake calls to his office is slithering upward, but that's a function of the massive wildfires in recent years that drove all manner of wildlife from the hills. He charges about $100 per visit.

"They are close to us, and we see more of them, which gives the impression that there are more snakes out there than in the past," Lindemood said.

At the San Diego Zoo, animal care manager John Kinkaid said he mountain bikes regularly and hasn't seen a wild rattlesnake this year. However, he figures the rains and bountiful rodents eventually will lead to higher survival rates for rattlers that hatch in San Diego County.

Richard Clark, toxicology director at the University of California San Diego Medical Center, said snake bites in the region appear to be up 10 percent to 25 percent over a typical year.

Between 25 and 50 rattler bites are reported annually in San Diego County. Bites are rarely fatal but often very painful.

"Many people who have big swollen arms and legs will have a hard time at work for a month afterward," Clark said.

Snake experts do agree on this point: Rattler run-ins are mostly avoidable.

"The people who spend the most time worrying about snakes are probably the ones least likely to have problems with them," said Cahill, the Anza-Borrego spokesman.

Cahill and other snake experts urged people to follow a few common-sense techniques: Be cautious and look ahead on trails; don't climb rocks where the handholds can't be seen; and don't touch or play with venomous reptiles.

"If you see a rattlesnake, don't try to kill it because that is where a lot of people end up in trouble," said the zoo's Kinkaid. "Just step away from it slowly."

Bite victims should stay calm, move slowly and call for emergency medical help, said Clark, the UCSD doctor.

He said the standby tricks from old Westerns – such as trying to suck out the poison – are ineffective and should be avoided.

"We don't recommend anybody do any cutting or sucking," he said.

At the hospital, bite victims typically are injected with antivenin to neutralize the venom. The vast majority of patients live to tell about their run-in with a rattler and try to explain how they beat the overwhelming odds against being bitten by one.


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1 posted on 06/20/2005 4:08:56 AM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx

Chicken tastes like rattlesnake.


2 posted on 06/20/2005 4:11:12 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: SoCalPol; Hildy; doodlelady

Ya;ll know where I live and I cannot take my Pug around the block on the canyon side because I have aslready seen 2 rattlers. This will be one heck of a rattler season. Be careful.


3 posted on 06/20/2005 4:11:15 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets


You're right. Hard to tell the difference.


4 posted on 06/20/2005 4:11:51 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

Ugh! Help stamp out rattlesnakes!


5 posted on 06/20/2005 4:15:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I've read that about 90% of people bit by snakes in the U.S. are handling them ir teasing them. Your chances of being bitten are remote.


6 posted on 06/20/2005 4:17:07 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: onyx
Orlando Airport a few years ago:


7 posted on 06/20/2005 4:17:23 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: onyx

Maybe we can get some LIBERALS to 'adopt a rattler for PETA" drive going. That might thin their numbers(rattlers AND Liberals)a little out there...lol


8 posted on 06/20/2005 4:17:47 AM PDT by Jazzman1
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To: Jazzman1


FOTFLOL! Now that's one heck of an idea because almost every pest and bug is a protected species in CA.


9 posted on 06/20/2005 4:21:33 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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10 posted on 06/20/2005 4:22:20 AM PDT by FReepaholic (When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading)
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To: tscislaw

I do NOT get close enough to them to use that. I take a panoramic view of the whole area about 25 feet in advance. The two I saw were sunning themselves on an infrequently traveled road that rims the canyon below. AND both snakes were HUGE. At least 5-6 feet long.


11 posted on 06/20/2005 4:27:39 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx
Rapid rise in rattlesnakes debated

It's not that there are more snakes - the democrats just registered more of them to vote.

12 posted on 06/20/2005 4:30:30 AM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
We hunt in south Texas where there are LOTS of rattlesnakes. Their natural camo is amazing. You can walk right up on one without seeing it. I know, I have done it. I startled a snake that was traveling on a trail and he stood up and danced on his tail while hissing at me. That is a maneuver that I had only seen depicted in western paintings but I saw it happen for real. It about scared me to death but the snake didn't live to talk about it. heh
13 posted on 06/20/2005 4:31:02 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Morgan's Raider


LOL-LOL-LOL


14 posted on 06/20/2005 4:31:06 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx
Liked that, didja?

Wait 'til you get moved to Mississippi - then you can also look out for copperheads, and cottonmouths if you are near water. And if you are far enough south, even the occasional coral snake.

15 posted on 06/20/2005 4:36:56 AM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: onyx

Take one average sized rattler, behead.

Start at the anus, slit the scales up to where head was. Using a pair of catfish skinners peel skin from the tail to the head area, discarding viscera. (You can rub the skin with a large quantity of rock salt and preserve it if you wish.)

Cut the snake into 2-3 inch chunks, dust in cornmeal. Deep fry until golden brown.

Enjoy with beverage of choice. Long necks are a preference.


16 posted on 06/20/2005 4:37:27 AM PDT by shag377 (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read it in English, thank a veteran.)
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To: onyx
Well, the folks in my hometown hold a little get together every year to address this issue!

Sweetwater Rattlesnake Roundup

17 posted on 06/20/2005 4:38:09 AM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: Morgan's Raider


Thank you, but I have a lovely yard in MS and NO snakes in the area. I;m in the hisotric area, and trust me, I asked about snakes BEFORE that house was purchased.


18 posted on 06/20/2005 4:39:13 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: texson66


That's a famous (or is it an INFAMOUS?) round up. I'd never be able to participate. Scared to death of snakes, even the nice ones.


19 posted on 06/20/2005 4:40:51 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

Could all this ground shaking be shaking them to the surface, shaking them to the top, and out of their holes in the ground - I wonder?


20 posted on 06/20/2005 4:43:15 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
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