Posted on 06/19/2005 6:13:28 PM PDT by Tall_Texan
I would particularly appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.
As I have explained somewhere else, Condi is a non-starter due to demographical realities in certain parts of the country.
I think of your list, she'd be the most likely if a woman was going to be on the ticket, but I'm still not convinced that Hillary (or any woman for that matter) will be the standardbearer for the Dems in 2008.
At least they waited till 1998 to start heavy speculation on W, it's too damn early, a million things can happen between today and this time next year, and in general, the longer you put yourself out as a "frontrunner" the longer your enemies have to be able to dig up dirt on you.
Mea Culpa.
There is only one "n". The last name is "Hutchison", not "Hutchinson". My bad.
I'm not sure I understanding. Are you saying Rice would have trouble attracting voters because she is a) a woman, b) African-American, c)from California or d) not solidly pro-life? That's not a loaded question. I just don't know which demographics you are pointing towards. Thanks.
Has anyone outside of Texas ever heard of Kay?
I like your idea in theory, but I don't think she's the best candidate to defeat the *thing*.
Go to # 19 on here, basically, I do an analysis regarding voting patterns of the counties in Alabama which voted to keep the ban on interracial marriage
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1424389/posts?page=12#12
She doesn't have to *defeat* Hillary. That would be up to the nominee. She only has to appear credible and prevent the GOP ticket from looking like the "old white men's club" in contrast to Hillary and whoever her Veep might be.
You could say I am being cynical about the whole process but you have to dumb down a national election for a whole lot of idiots who are barely connected enough to vote. That's why I stress it would be for balancing, not because she would make a great party leader or ticket headliner.
The problem I have with Kay Hutchison is everytime we call her office or fax her with issues we get no where fast.
Great tactical political thinking. Myself I will vote for Mrs. Clinton.
I see. Is that really a big enough problem as to hand the South back to the Democrats if Rice is on the ticket? I have my doubts about that. It's not like they are promoting Condi as a *spouse* for the running mate. You seem to presume a lot from a photo of the two hand-in-hand.
BTW, I lived in Mobile for awhile and visit Baldwin County frequently because of my mother and sister. I know a little bit about their politics more than the average guy.
Hopefully, there aren't too many of you. ;-P
Just my two cents, as our premier wordsmith on this site would put it.
Don't lose any sleep over this Tall, Kay will not be on any ticket in 2008. She is going to serve her last term in DC and then be done.
Baldwin County is not the problem, they voted to repeal the interracial marriage ban.
The problem is, when you take the small urban/suburban counties and combine them with the Black Belt counties, there is somewhat of a mollification factor (not to mention, some Democratic N. Ala counties didn't vote to keep the ban, so i couldn't include them)
Basically, the pro-ban counties in general, were closer to the statewide pulse in every election on here, than were either high population suburban counties or the Big 4.
And there were people in the Big 4 who voted to keep the ban, there are many counties which didn't make it on the list because the repeal passed by maybe a few percentage points.
I don't like admitting it, but it would be a big issue, and when you add on top of this that Condi is a woman, and by in large, one of those polished women. It spells real trouble out in the hinterlands.
Kay Hutchison? Give me a break. Nice lady, but presidential or vice-presidential possibility? No way, never.
Between now and 2008 every woman in the country will be rolled before our tired eyeballs as presidential materian, including Tonya Harding and Mary Kay LeTourneau.
Leni
I think you did an excellent analysis although I don't agree with everything.
I think Kay Bailey may be a little too old for the job. She has all the qualities you mention plus a quick mind but I don't think she has the necessary vigor.
Trying to counter Hillary is a waste of effort. She has her game plan and will follow it no matter who we nominate. Our nominee should be a conservative who is proud to be one and willing to be firm and straight forward about it. Too often, and probably will again, the political consultants get all worried about the "soft middle" or the undecideds and soften their candidate so as to not offend. That means also weakening the fervor of the conservative base, hoping they decide he is better than the other side. Unfortunately, that is always true.
I like George Allen so far. Rick Santorum would be good. Although Frist has more good qualities than we give him credit for he is too much of a soft middle person for my taste.
I think you underestimate, or is that misunderestimate?, Condi but I don't think she wants or will accept the chance to run. Laura and Lynn? Someone's ill thought out fantasy.
I think the Dems are bloodying up DeLay for fear he might run. He would be good. So will Newt but Newt is playing too cutsy with both sides of the street to suit me. However, he is brilliant and thinks these things through about three moves ahead.
Senator Hutchison's approval numbers are significantly higher than Governor Perry's numbers. A primary would have been tight because Governor Perry has higher support among GOP activists.
My personal theory is that President Bush leaned on Senator Hutchison to run for re-election to avoid an open Senate seat election and to avoid a primary which could leave the winner too bruised for the general election. I can only imagine the field day that the MSM and the DUers would have if the GOP lost the Texas governorship.
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