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The U.S. 2nd Infantry Division: New Name, New Game(weird acronyms)
Chosun Ilbo ^ | 06/17/05

Posted on 06/19/2005 5:47:49 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

The U.S. 2nd Infantry Division: New Name, New Game

The U.S. 2nd Infantry Division has completed its transformation into a letters jumble that in effect means greater flexibility and fire power. Military authorities now wish the division to be known as a Unit of Employment X (or UEx for short) under a wide-ranging reorganization the U.S. military is carrying out.

In a veritable festival of acronyms and monikers, the U.S. military newspaper Stars and Stripes reported Friday the Second Infantry Division had formed an artillery brigade, a so-called Fires Brigade, centered on two Multiple Launch Rocket System or MLRS battalions at Camp Stanley in Uijeongbu, Gyeonggi Province. A U.S. Forces in Korea or USFK official said an Area 1 Heavy Brigade Combat Team (or HBCT), Multi-Functional Aviation Brigade (or MFAB) and Fires Brigade were formed on June 14-16 - all apparently part of the process of transforming the Infantry Division into a UEx.

A UEx, experts explain, is a unit capable of performing functions somewhere between an existing division and army corps; the U.S. is currently converting about 10 divisions around the world into UExes, with the Korea-based division the first to make the transition. A UEx, pundits further elucidate, is made up of three to five Units of Action, or UAs, which, they say, denotes “an existing brigade-level combat unit.”

According to Stars and Stripes, the artillery brigade known as a Fires Brigade is additionally nicknamed "Thunder Team" and consists of the two MLRS battalions perhaps more easily identified as the 702nd Brigade Support Battalion and Company D, 122 Signal Battalion. They have a total strength of about 1,500 men. Second Infantry Division Commander Maj. Gen. George A. Higgins said the unit formed “the most powerful artillery force on the Korean Peninsula."

The paper reported the Thunder Team had been training for months, and the unit's command and control capabilities would be put to a comprehensive test during exercises later this year that are dubbed, for reasons best known to military authorities, the Ulchi Focus Lens.

The Second Infantry Division has also reorganized an existing brigade into an Area 1 HBCT consisting of seven battalions, including infantry and armor. With its massive firepower and greater mobility, the unit can carry out operations even without the support of another unit, the paper said.

The MFAB, meanwhile, combines attack and transport capabilities and consists of two attack helicopter battalions of the latest AH-64D Apache Longbow variety and an assault helicopter battalion equipped with UH-60 Blackhawks and CH-47 Chinooks.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2id; 2ndinfantry; army; game; name; reorganization; transformation
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To: TADSLOS

When recruits flock to recruiting stations and aske to be a part of that specific unit then I'll concede that the name change was good for recruiting.

For the record, I asked to be sent to Korea for my first duty station but not because of any name. I spent a year in 2ID and loved every minute of it.


21 posted on 06/19/2005 7:17:06 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Our daily security briefings are rife with acronyms. It's funny to watch the newbies looking all confused. Eventually, it just becomes part of our language.

And we're civilians.

22 posted on 06/19/2005 7:17:18 AM PDT by Allegra (But It's A Dry Heat...)
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To: Jet Jaguar

My biggest complaint is when they mix the letters of acronyms around to form a different acronym or just completely rename them altogether. I guess in this regard, the military has never been designed to be user friendly.


23 posted on 06/19/2005 7:18:54 AM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: lt.america

Yep. EPSP's EXDEEU's DEEU's EXPDG's and PDG's and PSP's

Where will it end?


24 posted on 06/19/2005 7:22:23 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Future Snake Eater
I appreciate the service of the "older" folks here on FR, but just because something changes in the military from the way it was when you were in doesn't automatically make it a bad idea.

Thanks for being patronizing.  I'm sure I'm completely wrong and have no basis for my opinion that an apparently gratuitous name change is a bad idea.

My point wasn't that it's wrong to change things.  My point was that to take a unit with the history of 2ID and give it this neutered buzzword sounding name is ignorant.

25 posted on 06/19/2005 7:23:34 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: nerdwithamachinegun

It's a new concept with an improvement to the existing infrastructure. They could call it the Fuzzy Lovey Bunny Brigade and it would still be a substantive improvement. Who cares about a name anyway?


26 posted on 06/19/2005 7:25:23 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: nerdwithamachinegun
Feel patronized if you want, but I'm in the 2nd ID, and I can tell you that there's no plan to change the name from 2nd ID, period.

I've been listening to a lot of complaining lately about the changes to the Army, especially the Stryker. Come take my place as a PL of a Stryker PLT in the 2nd ID under the UA (soon to be UEx) concept and tell me what a bad idea it is. My combat vet NCOs swear by the whole idea and that's good enough for me.

27 posted on 06/19/2005 7:28:59 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
HBCT--Hussein Baby Control Team
MLRS--Middle Leastern Reform Society
UA--Ultimate Angels or Underperforming Assyrians
USFK--United (against) Saddam Fighting Korps
MFAB--More Friggin Arab Bullets
Hope that helps.:)
28 posted on 06/19/2005 7:30:40 AM PDT by moog
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To: nerdwithamachinegun
My point is that the Army gratuitously changes names for no apparent reason or benefit.

As I mentioned before, the military, not just the Army, adapts to the threat, and in doing so re-organizes and re-names on occasion. Some Army G8 staff guy pitches a "new" organizational name to his boss so the Chief of Staff can pitch the "new" organization to DoD and Congress and the name and acronym grows legs. Next year it may be called something completely different to distinguish it from the prototype moniker. This process is not unusual nor unique.

Stand alone regiments and brigades have been organized and deployed in the U.S. Army numerous times over the course of its history (RCTs and Seperate Brigades for example). The names aren't necessarily what's important, it's how they're organized to fight and how effective they are that counts. You don't have to like the process, or even agree with why they do it, but there it is.

29 posted on 06/19/2005 7:32:09 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Future Snake Eater

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30 posted on 06/19/2005 7:36:46 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Thank you for the feedback. And you're welcome. ;)


31 posted on 06/19/2005 7:48:49 AM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

All of the posters are right. First the 2ID will keep its patch, for at least the UAX and one or two of its BCTs or UAs. The key in what the Army is doing is attempting to streamline one level of command by using one HQs formation capable of both tactical and operational C2 (corps/division), and making its fighting tactical formation self contained. For example, the CSS and CS (i.e. support formations and signal COs) are organic to the BCT not attached from some SPT command or Signal Bn owned by the Division. If any one is familiar with old regimental combat team or seperate INF BDE these are kinda the model. Its going to take a few years for it to sort out and folks to get their arms around the name changes. However, its the first really functional change in a long time. The BCTs have organic recon and intel, fires, UAV, support, signal, etc.
There are also thousands of majors and LTC in VA, Wash DC and elsewhere sweating the patch thing, likely more than sweating the best MTOE for the formation.


32 posted on 06/19/2005 8:01:42 AM PDT by dragon6 (happy dance happy dance)
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To: dragon6
There are also thousands of majors and LTC in VA, Wash DC and elsewhere sweating the patch thing, likely more than sweating the best MTOE for the formation

LOL! Well said.

33 posted on 06/19/2005 8:52:03 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Nope, just a WWII shorthand for Commander Destroyer Squadron 7 Destroyer Division Six Destroyers Atlantic


34 posted on 06/19/2005 9:28:54 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: rdb3
"Who knows what the brass is thinking WITH?"
35 posted on 06/19/2005 12:59:20 PM PDT by GSlob
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