Well, better tell these guys to redraw their picture. The only thing existing at t-44s is a photon.
Posted on 06/18/2005 7:04:07 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Well, evolution hasn't either; because evolution is a true scientific theory of the origin of SPECIES, not of the origin of life.
Don't forget why Joshua is stopping the sun instead of the earth to lengthen the day (Was used against Galileo by the Church, btw.)
Please link me to where I suggested in any way that you were going to hell. I simply addressed the fact that athiests and evolutionists must by default realize there is no hereafter for them. Evolution may get you to where we are, but it doesn't lend itself to the etherial hereafter.
I like the hand waving theory the best. With a magic wand mind you.
I actually interviewed a former university professor who gave me the inside story on who wrote Shakespeare's plays. He also wishes to remain anonymous. He swore me to secrecy, too. (Claimed, that if the Truth were know, it would lead to the end of Western Civilizaton and the Entlish Language. He also showed me the handshake.)
There is something that rings inevitably bogus about an "anonymous source" with a "revolutionary mechanism".
The Thunderbird is my Totem..
The divesity of human races is on the close order of 0.1%. I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express or whatever--that's from an article posted here earlier today.
Intelligent Design is a reasonable scientific research program, but it is not helped by this quackery.
A very good rule to observe re science threads: if you don't understand the science in the article at all, don't post it.
That's about what I've read in the past as well. Still though, that indicates that the total differences between humans are about 5% of the difference between humans and apes. If we were all the descendents of Noah that genetic diversity simply wouldn't exist.
What made the big bang bang?
Who put the bomp
In the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?
Who put the ram
In the rama lama ding dong?
Who put the bop
In the bop shoo bop shoo bop?
Who put the dip
In the dip da dip da dip?
Who was that man?
I'd like to shake his hand
He made my baby
Fall in love with me (yeah!!)
Who Put the Bomp
Barry Mann
Bzzt. Photons didn't exist until after electroweak symmetry breaking, which occurred about a trillionth of a second after the Big Bang. Sounds close enough as makes no odds, but in fact, a hell of a lot happened before that event took place.
I'm not addressing anything about the theory that this thread is based on, but EMF is the force used in particle accelerators(protons and neutrons).
Here is an interesting analysis of the beginning passages of Genesis":http://www.hope-of-israel.org/solars.htm
"In the pages of the Bible, we read in the opening words of the book of Genesis: "And God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was [the Hebrew word can just as easily be translated "became"] without form and void" (Gen.1:1-2). This word usually translated "was" as it is in this verse in the King James Version, is translated "became" in Genesis 19:26 regarding Lot's wife: "and she became a pillar of salt."
The words translated "without form and void" are from the Hebrew tohu va vohu, and mean, "empty, chaotic, confused." The word tohu is #8414 in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, and is defined as "be waste, a desolation (of surface), i.e., a desert," figuratively "a worthless thing," "in vain, confusion, empty place, waste, wilderness." The word vohu is #922 and means "to be empty, a vacuity, an undistinguishable ruin."
But did YEHOVAH God create the Earth originally in such a condition? Or did it become that way due to some ancient cosmic event, which could have included a collision with another celestial body, such as a massive planet with an elongated orbit, such as that of a comet?
In the book of Isaiah, we read:
"For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:18).
In this verse we see that YEHOVAH God did NOT create the Earth "in vain." The Hebrew word here, also, is tohu, and means -- as above -- "a waste, desolation, desert, a worthless thing, empty place," etc. So we see that originally YEHOVAH God did NOT create the Earth in a condition of tohu! Therefore, the logical explanation is that somehow, in the process of time, at some point after it was originally created, the Earth BECAME tohu -- a vain, empty, wasted desolation and ruin!
The logical question is -- what happened?"
I tend to believe that when one tries to determine what God didn't do by what he did do one often ends up forcing God into a very small box. Just because someone tells you they went to the movies does not mean they didn't stop off to get gas on the way. Many Christians seem to fall into the trap of limiting themselves and God by immediately rejecting anything that isn't KJV. I personally believe that there is some evidence that suggests that life is an expression of a deep order in the universe. God's signature so to speak. Many scientists would reject this outright but the fact is clear that the universe is a highly ordered place and from that we can either say that order is just a byproduct of the way things are with indifference much like crystals forming out of a solution and conscious thought is just a mirage that fools us into believing we are more than just complex lumps of matter that just happenned to develop the novelty of being able to understand the basic physics of the universe and our own biological foundation built in DNA. Humanity out of all the creatures on this planet has the ability to imagine and on intuition postulate ideas that it has no direct way of observing. Many of the great leaps in Science were great leaps of intuition based upon the smallest bits of evidence. Whether we are talking the movement of the planets, the existence of atoms, or the increasingly abstract world of high energy physics and quantum reality all began with flights of intuition. Not that mankind has not been wrong, but even the idea that a creature would come to believe in "God" and the idea of an afterlife is so highly abnormal and unique when all of the daily life of humanity especially primitive humanity would've suggested otherwise. One could say that because humanity has such a creative capacity that our memories of our loved ones are the "real" ghosts and that our ancestors were deceived by themselves and their grief but even that requires some deeper analysis because grief is not logical. Why would one develop such a trait and what benefit to one is it? Of course the use of "Why?" in a world without a God is really without much use because without God no matter how far we go in our exploration of our universe the answer we will utimately find to everything is "That is just the way it is". The wanting to go on is what fuels the drive in humanity, and fuels us to care about future generations because we can imagine them, do apes think of their grand children's grandchildren? We do and that sets us apart, why out of all the animals on this small planet are we set apart? Maybe "its just the way it is" is an adequate answer or maybe its because we are more and we do go on beyond the sunset.
Well, better tell these guys to redraw their picture. The only thing existing at t-44s is a photon.
Considering that there have been many millions of years by evolutionist reckoning...it's remarkably little.
See post # 55 by Physicist:
"In fact, a hell of a lot happened before that event took place."
I agree, but the concept is so overwhelming about how, in the "nothingness" a "hell of a lot happened." It really is gigantic intellectual ideation - hard to grasp, let alone articulate, but I agree. "...a hell of a lot happened" before the Big Bang banged.
Char
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