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To: bayourod
No...the people coming here into this nation without going through our legal process are here illegally. That is clear. In my opinion, they should be deported.

That does not mean I am against immigration...far from it. It just means that there must be an identifiable legal process and we must enforce it. It also means that we need to gain control of our borders, which is the only sane thing to do in this error of terror and warfare.

Now, I have only one issue with the 14th amendment. I do not believe it was ever intended to be a free ride for people breaking the law to get here just to take advantage of it. That needs, IMHO, to be rectified and the "law" the congress passed would have to take the form of a constitutional amendment that the people of the various states would vote on.

...and I'll bet you, if it were ever passed on to the states for ratification, it would pass.

No misunderstanding whatsoeve on my part there...just an opinion on how to address what, in my view, is a serious probblem...illegal aliens.

11 posted on 06/17/2005 9:56:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
If you're saying:
Immigrants that are legal are good.
Immigrants that are illegal are bad.

The solution is obviously simple; just change the law to legalize the ones who are illegal.

The "what don't you understand about illegal" arguments will never convince anyone except those seeking validation of their beliefs.

16 posted on 06/17/2005 10:26:14 PM PDT by bayourod
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To: Jeff Head

I agree. The 14th amendment made sense when mass (legal) immigration was taking place (mostly) from europe in an age when birth certs and other docs were lost, unavailable or maybe never issued in the countries of origin. Fast forward to today and we get the amazing images of women in labor lurching across the bridge to Laredo or similar so their baby can be born on US soil. It should be changed to say citizens (only) or citizens and the children of non-citizens legally present or something like that i.e. children of green card holders would be covered.


17 posted on 06/17/2005 10:27:00 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Jeff Head
Now, I have only one issue with the 14th amendment. I do not believe it was ever intended to be a free ride for people breaking the law to get here just to take advantage of it. That needs, IMHO, to be rectified and the "law" the congress passed would have to take the form of a constitutional amendment that the people of the various states would vote on.

...and I'll bet you, if it were ever passed on to the states for ratification, it would pass

I am in 100% agreement.

117 posted on 06/18/2005 10:42:23 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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