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Bush warns Congress that gasoline buyers fed up
The Houston Chronicle ^ | June 15, 2005, 6:35PM | Associated Press

Posted on 06/16/2005 2:43:59 PM PDT by newgeezer

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Bush warns Congress that gasoline buyers fed up

LOL. Maybe if those fed-up buyers would quit chugging it like a Massachusetts Senator, ...

The president outlined his four-point plan to reduce high energy prices: Promote conservation;

Good, very good.

produce and refine more crude oil in the United States;

Good, good...

develop alternative sources of energy, such as renewable ethanol or biodiesel;

Isn't it about time the ethanol industry unlatched itself from the public teat?

and help other nations, such as China, to become more energy-efficient to reduce global demand for energy.

ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH! Help China?! What is it with this guy sometimes?

1 posted on 06/16/2005 2:43:59 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer

Can't wait until Jan, 2009.


2 posted on 06/16/2005 2:45:22 PM PDT by econ_grad (The US Constitution presents no significant challenge to the government.)
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To: newgeezer

Congress can always drop the gas tax. That'd help. Bwhahahahahahahahaha...(laughing at my own humor)


3 posted on 06/16/2005 2:51:51 PM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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Let hippy libs conserve, I'm saving up for a Hummer. Now that we've got Iraq we shouldn't have to worry about oil for a good, long time.


4 posted on 06/16/2005 2:53:43 PM PDT by Right_at_RiceU (You don't need a gun to kill hippies, just soap or work.)
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Help China?! What is it with this guy sometimes?

Well, it makes sense... China is hording lots of the supply. If we could somehow make them more effecient. Why not? It would make Oil cheaper, thus gas cheaper

5 posted on 06/16/2005 2:54:41 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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>>and help other nations, such as China, to become more energy-efficient to reduce global demand for energy.>>

China? You mean that nation that has been building dozens of new warships to challenge us in the Pacific? Yes, I'm sure they would appreciate our help.


6 posted on 06/16/2005 2:54:51 PM PDT by travlnmn41
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To: newgeezer
Isn't it about time the ethanol industry unlatched itself from the public teat?

Isn't it time to rejuvenate the almost infinite resource for electricity...nuclear power? I don't know how much oil is used when nuclear power would be a nice clean substitute. Certainly some is.

7 posted on 06/16/2005 2:56:21 PM PDT by stevem
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Congress can always drop the gas tax. That'd help. Bwhahahahahahahahaha...(laughing at my own humor)

It could certainly drop the part of the gas tax that doesn't pay for constructing and maintaining Federal highways.

But, yes, the thought of it doing so is laughable. I mean, what then could it use to blackmail the states into enforcing seatbelt laws, lowering the legal blood alcohol content, etc.?

8 posted on 06/16/2005 2:56:42 PM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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FINDING DEAL$ ON GA$OLINE:
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12 Month National Average for Regular Unleaded by AAA.com


Gas prices could fall with a TAX CUT, too!


9 posted on 06/16/2005 2:59:33 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Promote conservation; produce and refine more crude oil in the United States; develop alternative sources of energy, such as renewable ethanol or biodiesel; and help other nations, such as China, to become more energy-efficient to reduce global demand for energy. He said it was time for the United States to expand its nuclear power capacity.

Well, I like two of the suggestions.

10 posted on 06/16/2005 3:04:14 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Children don't need counting, because whatever number you have, you never have enough.")
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Isn't it time to rejuvenate the almost infinite resource for electricity...nuclear power?

Speaking of the infinite source of electricity, if we had a 21st-century electric grid, we could put enough windmills up and down the Great Plains to put an end to those insane gas-fired plants.

11 posted on 06/16/2005 3:05:27 PM PDT by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a REAL capitalist.)
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Nuclear is used for electrical generation almost exclusively. Oil only amounts to 3% of electrical generation with the vast majority of oil being used in the transportation sector. Eliminating oil consumption for electrical production will help but only slightly. Oil consumption in transportation could only be replaced by nuclear in a few ways that I can think of:

- Put nuclear reactors in vehicles: Not practical

- Use nuclear reactors to split hydrogen from water and
use that to power vehicles

- Run more transportation directly off the grid-
electrified rail or battery based transportation
(either completely or in a hybrid form)
12 posted on 06/16/2005 3:06:10 PM PDT by NYorkerInHouston
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To: martin_fierro

Er, the actual URL for Iowa gas prices is:

http://www.iowaSTATEgasprices.com


13 posted on 06/16/2005 3:07:33 PM PDT by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a REAL capitalist.)
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To: Tax-chick

During the 20s, alot of moonshiners actually ran their cars on their production.

If it worked then, it could certainly work now. All you have to do is find the right combination of alcohol and some other fuel worthy liquids, and you could create a fuel that would be in endless supply and compatible with older engines as well.




And as for Bush, I'm glad there is nothing in here about LNG and it's "merits"


14 posted on 06/16/2005 3:07:53 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (If you want Siegelman to win a 2nd term, by all means, vote for Roy Moore in the primary)
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All you have to do is find the right combination of alcohol and some other fuel worthy liquids, and you could create a fuel that would be in endless supply and compatible with older engines as well.

If it's private enterprise and voluntarily purchased by consumers, I love it. If it's a government-funded and mandated in any way, I hate it.

I saw an article recently on some soybean byproduct that can be a petroleum substitute, but it costs a lot more than gasoline right now.

15 posted on 06/16/2005 3:10:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Children don't need counting, because whatever number you have, you never have enough.")
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To: Echo Talon

Yep they're (China) buying it all up in Canada...they are crawling all over the tar sands in Alberta and elswhere, they are even talking joint pipeline project from Alberta to the BC coast then tanker it across the Pacific...


16 posted on 06/16/2005 3:12:16 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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it costs a lot more than gasoline right now.

We used to be able to say that about ethanol, too. Sooner or later, ethanol will be a lot cheaper than gasoline.

17 posted on 06/16/2005 3:12:50 PM PDT by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a REAL capitalist.)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

I'm just saying if it's an easy fix to make them more, efficient why not? it would help US to help them.


18 posted on 06/16/2005 3:15:47 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Tax-chick

Straight alchohol has a corrosive effect on the rubber and plastic used in engines and fuel systems. I'm not knocking your suggestion... I'm all for alternative sources of fuel.

I was mad as hell when the Democrats in Congress voted down Bush's first energy bill, with their weak excuses and blubbering half-truths about "Bush's oil friends". We have the technology in this coutnry to change our entire energy infrastructure and I think somebody who can market it stands to make a fortune by doing so. I'm not a proponent of alternative fuels because of some mystical reverence for the environment that you usually hear from a bunch of stoned hippies on the Left Coast... I think we should do it to stick it to those tyrants and playground bullies in the Middle East. Let the market drive the changes and the ME will fall into obscurity.


19 posted on 06/16/2005 3:27:10 PM PDT by Venerable Bede
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And when it is, people will buy it and use it.


20 posted on 06/16/2005 3:28:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Children don't need counting, because whatever number you have, you never have enough.")
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