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Teen wants apology with diploma
The Washington Times ^ | 6-16-05 | Keyonna Summers

Posted on 06/16/2005 11:42:33 AM PDT by JZelle

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To: uremus
First off, it is BOLA, not bolo. A bolo is what the Argentine cowboys use like our cowboys used a lasso.

Nope. "Bola tie" and "bolo tie" are both acceptable, according to Mr. Webster. Also, not to be too pampas about it, but the Argentinian weapon is also a "bola". The bola tie was originally called a "piggin tie" by its inventor, but the name "bola" stuck because of its resemblence to the Argentinian device. FYI, a "bolo" is a long heavy single-edged knife of Philippine origin used to cut vegetation and as a weapon.

81 posted on 06/16/2005 1:26:12 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: tfecw

My husband never got his. They handed out only the holders in case anyone did something deemed "wrong". Then the students had to wait in line after the ceremony for the real diploma. My husband had family visiting and didn't have time to wait. When he needed proof of education at a future job je got a transcript copy instead.


82 posted on 06/16/2005 1:26:31 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Pop Fly

YOu don't have to be Chrokee to wear them -- men in Texas and Arizona wear them all the time! This is just silly.


83 posted on 06/16/2005 1:28:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: The G Man

"disrespected him"

Yeah, I despise the misuse of that word, especially by young punks who don't even know what respect is. (not implicating bolo boy in this)


84 posted on 06/16/2005 1:28:42 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: Zack Attack

I don't like the bola ties, but he actially looks good. Not at all distracting.


85 posted on 06/16/2005 1:29:26 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Pop Fly

Nighthorse Campbell was a Democrat, then switched partys, then decided not to run again, because, I guess, he was confused.

I have been a public high school teacher for 17 years. If we did not have dress rules at graduation a few yo-yos (like this kid and his parents) would turn each ceremony into a "hey, look at me" circus. Good for the high school adminstration that they held on to their rules. What's the matter with you people? Think this through.


86 posted on 06/16/2005 1:35:41 PM PDT by kjo
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To: alisasny

My goodness -- he is a handsome young man and he looks very nice in his bolo. Most schools and parents would give their eye teeth to claim that kid.

All of the high school graduates from our parish were honored at a special Mass on Sunday, and you should have seen the way some of them dressed (about 4 or 5 schools were represented). Most of them looked fine. However, it was obvious that some of the guys were wearing shorts, and I can't tell you how many pairs of flip flops were in evidence on both sexes. Apparently the girls from a local Catholic girls' school don't wear graduation gowns -- they wear white dresses. One of them was wearing a strapless dress -- most inappropriate for Sunday morning Mass.

This did not seem to bother our Pastor and all of the kids were invited up on the Altar for part of the liturgy. The young man in the bolo looks first class compared to some of those kids last Sunday.


87 posted on 06/16/2005 1:36:13 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: billbears
Anything before 1985 to him was historical. Does that also mean we shouldn't remember WWII victories yet because they're not historical enough?

Heritage and historical are not synonyms. He’s claiming that the bolo tie is an intricate part of his racial heritage. It’s not. The fact that Indians make them for sale now does not make it part of their heritage. The current common manufacturing origins of plastic leis, tomahawks, shamrocks, eiffle towers, and fake vomit doesn't make those things part of Chinese heritage either.

But the historical inaccuracy of his claim is irrelevant to those cowed by any claim of racial grievance. The kid is smart enough to know what strings to pull.

88 posted on 06/16/2005 1:37:33 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: billbears
To see the precedent for this, back in the 60s there were two kids that wore black armbands to school to protest the war (I believe). SCOTUS found in favor of the students that the school was violating their First Amendment rights.

In the case you are referring to, Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, the Court wrote: “The problem posed by the present case does not relate to regulation of the length of skirts or the type of clothing, to hair style or deportment.” In other words, Tinker recognized that disputes over types of clothing do not raise the same free-speech interests as regulation of the type of expression at issue with armbands.

I brought up the heritage factor more importantly. He should have the right to express his heritage as he sees fit.

The heritage argument absolutely is an attempt to make a racial case of this. Your argument that you shouldn't have to prove that he was singled out because of his race by claiming it was a 'heritage' issue instead fails.

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. You statists will do anything to support and official won't you? Actual harm?!? It has nothing to do with actual harm, it has to do with his natural, not received by the government, rights! Locke anyone?

Dodging the argument by calling me a 'statist' is pitiful on your part. As for your claim that it is about his rights and not actual harm, and considering your First Amendment claim fails, I would like to know what you think is giving him these 'rights' in the absence of the possibility of harm by their denial.

Well because he was allowed to wear the bolo at other school sponsored events the school has acceded to his right to wear it. But your argument is that the school can change its rules at any given time with no forewarning.

Unless either those other school sponsored events had a prohibition against bolos and he was allowed to wear it anyway, or the ceremony's dress code was published as the same as these past events, then you are relying on an illogical extension of rules between separate events. As for the changing of rules with no forewarning, that is patently false. Not only were the rules regarding the dress code published in advance, the student was positively made aware of it well before the incident.

Oh, and by the way, just because others are not radical anarchists such as yourself doesn't mean they are brainwashed lockstep 'statists' (whatever that means). Some of us realize that a society without any rules would be unsustainable.

89 posted on 06/16/2005 3:08:54 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: JZelle
So, why FLAUNT it? Whear it out of sight, UNDER your shirt, and nobody has a gripe. Guess he never learned, what the government doesn't know(in this case, can't see) can't hurt me."

It is stitched on the sampler, right above, Shoot, shovel, shut up, and Always cheat a little on your taxes in THEIR favor; they'll never audit you again!

90 posted on 06/16/2005 4:52:56 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: dead
All original aboriginal Indians wore bolo ties, and breechcoths. That was formal Indian wear, along with good handmade moccasins, a decent blanket and a number of feathers.

The relaxed Indian events relied on breech-cloth, bare feet and armband.

Of course, buck-nakedness was sometimes seen, but had, for the most part, gone out of fashion.

What a jerk PC group. And I have a smidge of native Indian in me that is sorely embarrassed.
91 posted on 06/16/2005 5:30:55 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: wizardoz
I didn't wear a kilt to my graduation.

And all in attendance were glad.

92 posted on 06/16/2005 5:33:10 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hot will cool, if greedy will let it.)
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To: Osage Orange
"I didn't wear a kilt to my graduation."

And all in attendance were glad.

"... because I didn't want to cover up my custom-made, purple, sequined Speedo."

93 posted on 06/16/2005 8:08:14 PM PDT by wizardoz
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To: LIConFem

I wore a very nice bolo in solidarity on Sunday.


94 posted on 06/16/2005 8:16:36 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Sit down, shut up and do what Big Brother tells you (after all, it's for your own good).


95 posted on 06/16/2005 8:35:31 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: joebuck

From the article linked in #41:

"In March, Benya's school sent a letter to parents and seniors explaining that adherence to the dress code is mandatory, with the word ''mandatory" in bold and underlined. For girls: white dresses or skirts with white blouses. For boys: dark dress pants with white dress shirts and ties."

It just says 'tie'.

Seems to me he should have been allowed to wear a bolo "TIE'.

It slso mentions in the article that some girls were allowed to wear long pants and headscarves for religious reasons (Muslim?). So they were making exceptions for some people.


96 posted on 06/16/2005 10:32:04 PM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: JZelle

Danged Easterners! Out here, a bolo tie is a tie, just as much as that atrophied bib that passes for one back east.


97 posted on 06/16/2005 10:34:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Paloma_55
When I graduated, in the early 70's, rebellion was part of the norm (is that an oxymoron?) so people went to great efforts to dress as strangely as possible while still meeting the dress code.

or not. One of the guys in my graduating class wore his birthday suit under his gown, and a pair of sneakers...

98 posted on 06/16/2005 10:45:40 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Henchster; Gefreiter

LOL!


99 posted on 02/12/2006 7:40:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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