Posted on 06/16/2005 11:22:21 AM PDT by SandRat
Why wait? Why not be one of the people that helps bring it to your state?
It is time to move past the BSA and create a private, non-publicly created enterprise. That way, maybe, the new organization will have the rights to exclude pedophiles from their ranks.
No, I don't. I have nothing agains promoting brotherhood among citizens of respective nations. However, "citizen" is a LEGAL term, identifying legal duties and responsibilities to a nation and its government. "Citizen of the world" therefore denotes fealty to a global government. Don't think for a second that these WAGGGS cheezes don't hold that objective.
Had you witnessed the duplicity, outright dishonesty, and cowardliness displayed by our local GSUSA over their plans to indoctrinate our children in politically correct sexuality, without our knowledge as parents, you might not take this so lightly.
Semi-invalid now. Organizing anything would really put me in a hospital.
I"m your wicked Uncle Ernie I guess you won't see or hear me as I fiddle about, fiddle about, fiddle about.
I believe air rifles are now out in the UK.
Better start Christian Boy and Girl Scout troops to avoid this kind of crap in the future. Too bad they're ruining what was a great organization. For shame.
Make that 'formerly great'.
When I was a scout, whoever had done the best since the last one, the scoutmaster would sleep in his tent, and he would be his assistant for that weekend. I got to be his assistant 4 times!
I forgot the /sarcasm tag. As much as the BSA gets pounded on as though they are under public scrutiny, it would seem they must not be a private organization.
Any public school that bans the BSA from using it's facilities will fall afoul of the Equal Access Act and the No Child Left Behind Act, unless that school bans ALL after-school organizations from meeting there.
The link you gave is just a bunch of links on www.bsa-discrimination.org. There is no information on that page regarding any banning of BSA units from public schools, public halls, or military facilities.
FYI: the settlement that the DoD reached with the ACLU bans military units from sponsoring BSA units. This is in accordance with the DoD's own policies, which some military units were ignoring, that military units were forbidden from sponsoring non-military organizations. However, there is no ban that prevents any BSA unit from using facilities on military bases, and units still do use such facilities.
You really should do some research before posting assertions such as those you've made. So far you've not given any evidence backing them up, and they are all incorrect.
At no point in the history of either the BSA or the British Boy Scouts were they intended to be an exclusively Christian organization. There have always been Hindus, Moslems, Mormons, and other non-Christian religions in the BSA and in the British Scouts.
It is, and it isn't. I have no problem with a private organization being exclusive. I have no problem joining private, exclusive organizations. And for those I cannot join, they are free to associate with certain people and not to associate with others, even I'm one of those "others".
The problem is, BSA enjoys special privileges that other private organizations do not enjoy. For example, our local public schools allow BSA to recruit during school hours, even having public school teachers distribute BSA information to the students. (Even though BSA has a religious requirement and does not admit nonreligious kids).
If it's OK for the BSA to use public school property and class time to recruit new members, what about the other private, exclusive, religious-oriented organizations that exclude certain children? I'm sure there are plenty of churches and temples and mosques that would love to have the same access to public school students.
So, on the one hand, BSA plays the "we're-a-private-organization" card so it can exclude certain people; but it behaves more like a gov't agency, enjoying special privileges that other private orgs. are not permitted.
If the BSA gets to use public property for their use is usually up to the public property administrators. Others can use the schools, too.
If you're saying that the Scoutmaster would sleep in a boy's tent and that boy was not his own son then that is wrong.
If you are saying that the Scoutmaster and youth traded tents (the boy got the BIGGER Scoutmaster's tent and the Scoutmaster took the boy's smaller tent) then that probably was ok.
BTW were there other adults out there also?
Oh, now, I highly doubt that... lol. Are you aware of any scout admitted by taking an oath to a tree? If so, then no one should have a problem joining the scouts. I could take my sons there right now and tell them we belong to the Church of Monday Night Football...
The liberals are brilliant at entering other people's institutions and turning them inside out. They are like termites. Let them in, let their ideas and values in, and before you know it, they're in charge and utterly destructive.
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