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Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism is Corrupting Our Future;(Ben Shapiro's startling new book)
TOWNHALL.COM ^ | JUNE 15, 2005 | Maribeth Armitage

Posted on 06/15/2005 6:43:04 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: little jeremiah
The mayor said there was nothing in state law that could stop the shop. So there it is - with kids walking by it all the time.

I guess that would simply be an issue of state law and the ability under such laws of towns to pass certain zoning. I don't think this says anything about pornographers being able to force communities to allow their businesses on main streets. Blame your state legislators for this.

Yet there it is, courtesy of the ACLU and a bunch of jackass judges.

From what you've described, it is there courtesy of the state legislature.

81 posted on 06/16/2005 9:34:30 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Modernman

The story has some holes in it.

A)It's perfectly legal for a town to pass a law to restrict "adult establishments" from being too close to churches or schools. NYC passed just such a law.

B)If it's such a small town, why did the landlord rent to such an establishment? Doesn't he have to face his neighbors etc.?

C)Most retail establishments deal with community standards one way or another. If a business doesn't meet community standards, then nobody will patronize it and the place goes out of business.

D)Adult establishments generally don't open on small town Main Streets. They know their customers prefer anonymous entrnces and exits.


82 posted on 06/16/2005 9:39:55 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Modernman

I addressed your arguments in another comment. The fact is that a debased cultural climate, driven by moneyed interests (as in Hollywood and pornographers - but I repeat myself) and leftists - as in the ACLU and a bunch of judges, including some on the SCOTUS - affects everyone.

It is not easy, and in fact virtually impossible, for parents to protect their children from the pervasive cultural climate of acceptance and indeed, glorification of immorality.

When moneyed interests, leftists, and moral relativists (who aren't relative at all) have determined to turn the whole world into a dump, those of us living in the dump are affected by the atmosphere.


83 posted on 06/16/2005 9:43:54 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: durasell

And the reason they aren't applicable is the influence of leftist moral relativism. I have personal knowledge of the very beginnings of the feminist movement, as well as having read some of their literature. Feminism is one of the most vile philosophies to hit the planet, and it is one of the prime moving forces behind easy and legal abortion, "children's rights" - to have abortions, have sex early and often, homosexual rights, no-fault divorce. All of these have seriously degraded the cultural climate in only 40 years.

The original feminists were primarily lesbians and heavily influenced by communism - in fact, Betty Friedan was a member of the communist party for a while, IIRC.

So the reason they are not applicable is because certain groups - leftists all - have exerted great effort to change the culture.


84 posted on 06/16/2005 9:49:29 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: durasell

If you see no evidence of devolution, then you must agree with the cultural degradation which is happening very clearly before our eyes.


85 posted on 06/16/2005 9:50:35 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Modernman

The legislature cannot pass a law which the 9th circuit or SCOTUS, in their infinite wisodm, has declared unconstitutional.


86 posted on 06/16/2005 9:52:05 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Donald Meaker

"When it comes to marriage: would you go on a cruise ship if 60% of the cruise ships sank?

Why get married, since 60% end in divorce?"

On a cruise ship you have no control if it sinks or not. In a marriage it's your own dumb-ass fault if it fails.


87 posted on 06/16/2005 9:57:31 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: little jeremiah

I see shifting patterns that don't point in one direction or another. For instance, there is a coarsening of popular culture, but church attendance is up across the country. These two phenoms are contradictory. I'm not implying they are related, but they are happening simultanously.


88 posted on 06/16/2005 9:58:23 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: little jeremiah
The legislature cannot pass a law which the 9th circuit or SCOTUS, in their infinite wisodm, has declared unconstitutional.

The 9th Circuit cannot override a SCOTUS decision:

Renton v. Playtime Theatres

89 posted on 06/16/2005 9:59:15 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: little jeremiah; All

Simple avoidance is no longer an option.

I could V-Chip sexual explicit,homosexual program in the entire tv/cable lineup but it is useless because the TV commecials still permiate promoting the those shows. It does no good to "clip" "queereye for the (cuckold)straight guy" because their commercials still reach children.

Even so called safe channels like nickelodeon are infested with sexual subtexts like the recent "we are (a homsexual)family" indoctrination program.

Those that advocate the change the channel or just go another way are either living in a dream world or are working for the perversion pushers.

The hollyweird types have worked overtime to make changing the channel useless. See when the suits of paramount ORDERED all their programing producers to each make one of their episodes about aides and "diversity of lifestyles".

In conslusion: we can't avoid anymore, it is no longer an option. The pervasive porography push has to be attacked outright.


90 posted on 06/16/2005 10:35:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Flightdeck

If you include people who remarry the person they divorced (per ann coulter) OVER 60% of marriages succeed/take hold.

You are confusing divorce law with marriage success. There is no peaceful or painless divorce.


91 posted on 06/16/2005 10:38:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
In conslusion: we can't avoid anymore, it is no longer an option. The pervasive porography push has to be attacked outright.

You do have an option you left out

TURN THE TV OFF!!!!

92 posted on 06/16/2005 10:40:48 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: CHARLITE

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93 posted on 06/16/2005 10:42:07 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: CHARLITE

Ben's dad says Ben might be on "O'Reilly" tonight. Maybe somebody could review it here for those of us who don't have t.v.s


94 posted on 06/16/2005 10:43:27 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: little jeremiah
Puh-leeze. The simple fact is that you do have the option to not have an abortion, not use drugs, and the like. However, you don't have the option to not pay your taxes if they're too high.

That's why fiscal conservatism needs to be in the driver's seat and social policy needs to sit politely in the back of the bus and not pester the driver.

95 posted on 06/16/2005 10:46:47 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: longtermmemmory
we can't avoid anymore

Your TV has been replaced by a Twonky that turns itself back on if you shut it off and follows you around if you walk away from it?

This I gotta see!

96 posted on 06/16/2005 10:53:23 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: longtermmemmory

I didn't write the 60% commment, I was quoting the other guy who did. I merely implied that a failure in marriage is due to a failure of the individuals, which shouldn't dissuade another given individual.


97 posted on 06/16/2005 11:23:04 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: durasell

One piece of evidence which I can't believe you don't take seriously is the huge percentage of births to unwed mothers. Around one third of all births in the US are to unwed mothers, in the black community it's 75+% percent. Think about those numbers. In the UK it's 49%.

Social implosion due to the destruction of the family. Kids raised in what used to be called "broken homes" become very damaged, generally speaking. Of course, some overcome the damage. But many, many don't. Kids raised without their own mother and father in the home are at an extreme disadvantage, much higher incidences of drug/acohol use, molestation, violent behavior, acting out, promiscuity, and they have a much worse track record at being able to form stable marriages themselves.

If this doesn't herald danger to you, then you are either shutting your eyes willingly, or have extremely odd standards.


98 posted on 06/16/2005 12:56:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I agree with you 100%.

Which begs the question - why do people vociferously support pornography? They must either want it easily available for themselves, or applaud the destruction of morality for some other reason. For instance, those who support socialist revolution greatly value the destruction of social order, since it helps their cause.

A third reason might be that if a person is attached to some form of vice, a culture that tolerates or promotes any and all vices is more comfortable.


99 posted on 06/16/2005 1:01:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Modernman

Public indecency is still illegal etc? Ha. Whether it's illegal on the books or not has little relevance.

Ever seen any footage of "Gay Pride" parades, or been there in person?

Nuff said.


100 posted on 06/16/2005 1:05:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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