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White House Nixes Withholding U.N. Dues
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/15/05 | William C. Mann - AP

Posted on 06/15/2005 5:29:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
"The Constitution gives to Congress the power of the purse"

Hyde must have an old copy of the Constitution.

41 posted on 06/15/2005 8:26:58 PM PDT by econ_grad (The US Constitution presents no significant challenge to the government.)
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To: thoughtomator

You honestly think a president who would support getting rid of the UN would win election in the United States?

lol

Look, Bush is center-right, and that qualifies him as conservative. There are degrees of conservatism, but that doesn't make him any less of a true conservative just because he disagrees with you on something.

Hey, I support Hyde on this one instead of Bush as well.

But, to say that Bush isn't a conservative because of his position on this......which he holds ***because he believes withholding dues would *hamper* efforts at reform, not because he is opposed to reform of the UN*** is silly and well, lacking in intellect.


42 posted on 06/15/2005 8:33:53 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Founding Father

I get disgusted with idiots more and more each day who think that a president of all Americans will push for their ideas all the time instead of supporting another idea sometimes.

Yeah, I am talking about you.

I think Hyde is right here. But, Bush's motives aren't anti-UN reform. He believes withholding dues would have the opposite effect of what we believe it would do...instead of helping reform, it would hurt it.

I think he is wrong on this one. But, that doesn't make him a RINO.

I note your complete disrespect or our president with your shrub language.


43 posted on 06/15/2005 8:37:31 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: satchmodog9
Talk out of both sides of the mouth like the one world socialist you really are George.

First, you are a dormant troll, because only a troll calls President Bush a socialist and calls him George instead of President Bush.

Second, President Bush did not say anything yet about withholding or not withholding the US dues to the UN. If the "undersecreatry" of State in the State department expressed his opinion it does not mean at all that this is the offical or final position of President Bush on this issue.

44 posted on 06/15/2005 8:41:59 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: rwfromkansas
That is what they call President Bush at DUmmie Land, Shrub. Please remember that there are 800 freepers who said on an FR poll few days before election day that they will not vote for President Bush. You have at least 3 or 4 of them right here on this thread, and 2 of them are of course claiming that they voted for him, yep we believe them (sarcasm).
45 posted on 06/15/2005 8:45:49 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: RockinRight
And one can be a POS withoug being a socialist or globalist. So what?

I agree with you about trade but I am just stating political reality.

46 posted on 06/15/2005 8:55:48 PM PDT by ValenB4 ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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To: afnamvet
Damn, I voted for the pod person! LOL!

I think I did too.

The man I voted for is not the same man I got.

47 posted on 06/15/2005 9:28:40 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
The man I voted for is not the same man I got.

The Republicans I voted for are not the Repubulicans I got.

48 posted on 06/15/2005 9:32:24 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: afnamvet
The Republicans I voted for are not the Repubulicans I got.

Congressman McCrery and Senator Vitter, of Louisiana, are still great Republicans. Senator Landrieu is full of surprises lately, she's a dimocrap, but she's voting for some of what I want.

49 posted on 06/15/2005 9:41:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Congressman McCrery and Senator Vitter, of Louisiana, are still great Republicans. Senator Landrieu is full of surprises lately, she's a dimocrap, but she's voting for some of what I want.

I voted for President Bush. I believe he is a good man trying to do a good job. I do not agree with his stance on immigration and other issues.

Quite frankly, I am looking more closely at candidates than I used to.

50 posted on 06/15/2005 9:56:17 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: NormsRevenge
"We specifically cannot agree to the withholding provisions," Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns said. "We are the founder, host country and leading contributor to the U.N."

This clown Burns says it like it's something to be proud of.
How utterly disgusting.

My only hope (I'm probably dreaming) is that the White House makes ridiculous statements like this one with a winking eye. In any event, GO, CONGRESS!

51 posted on 06/15/2005 10:04:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge
Okay. I just re-read the piece more carefully. Here's the juice:

"We believe that it's possible to make progress and reform the U.N. without withdrawing financial support," Burns said.

"We are interested in supporting congressional efforts to argue for reform in the United Nations," Burns said. "But we object to and oppose those provisions that would mandate the withholding of 50 percent of our contribution and to the other provisions of the bill that would restrict the president's ability and flexibility to instruct his ambassador to the United Nations."

The President and Congress are tag-teaming against the Democrats. Bottom line: Either Bolton gets confirmed ("reform the U.N. without withdrawing financial support") or financial support gets cut in half.

Good strategery. I get it now. I especially like that the House is getting involved.

52 posted on 06/15/2005 10:11:20 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rwfromkansas

This is just the latest of a long string of unconservative actions - including his very first priority when he was first elected - not just a single action. And he's not running for office anymore.


53 posted on 06/15/2005 11:30:56 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: RockinRight

There's hope for the GOP...his name is Mike Pence. Other good guys are Inhofe and Coburn.
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Yep, but there's not much hope for the bloated mainstream republican party. That's why I'm such a CFG fan.

btw, it is worth mentioning that I would be a fan of the UN if it stood for liberty and properity. If Kofi Annan was berating Bush for his out of control spending, drug laws, and high taxes - hey I'd join!


54 posted on 06/16/2005 3:39:24 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/canadahealthcare.htm)
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To: NormsRevenge
Since the withholding of funds is conditional the White House is conceding that the UN ain't gunna change.
55 posted on 06/16/2005 3:42:39 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: NormsRevenge

The Bush administration told Congress on Wednesday it opposes a bill to overhaul the way the United Nations works,



big surprise there.
rofl...
What can we say but "go W... "

roflmao


56 posted on 06/16/2005 3:44:23 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: thoughtomator

was probably me.
sorry.

he's pretty good at defending Iraq's borders against syria... but the homefront borders ain't his specialty.

3.5 years he has left as president.
Maybe he needs a good scandal to spice things up a bit.


57 posted on 06/16/2005 3:48:27 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What do you expect from a president whose father was our ambassador to the UN? The Bushes are globalists. It's in their blue blood.


58 posted on 06/16/2005 3:49:27 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: jveritas

Troll this. Stop being such a sycophant and see how much the government has grown under the Bush administration.


59 posted on 06/16/2005 5:06:29 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: traviskicks

I also like CFG and donate to them BTW.


60 posted on 06/16/2005 6:18:55 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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