[DGray]

Beavis and Butthead fly a jet. These guys need to be nominated for the Darwin Award.

[Dog]

Whoa.

[Turbopilot]

Could you please pull the editorials out of this article's title? The pilots who died in this crash didn't do anything that makes them "idiots", despite what some who don't understand the issues might think, and there's no reason anyone needs to edit an article title to make fun of the dead.

[upchuck]

These guys have been nominated for a Darwin Award, right?

[mwyounce]

Investigators say the crash occurred after the pilots took the plane to 41,000 feet, an altitude where engine problems can develop.

Funny... the story on this last week said that 41,000 ft. was the upper limit of the aircraft. Now, it's past the limit and at the point where engine troubles occur.

[wideminded]

I'm not a pilot, but I had heard that the FAA assigns planes to a particular altitude. Were these pilots breaking any rules and/or laws in deciding on their own what altitude they would go to?

[jimboster]

These two idiots decided to have a little fun since they were ferrying the jet to another location and had no passengers. Since they crashed in a residential area, it's just lucky these two JERKS didn't kill some innocent people.

[Sundog]

Have a look at this.

[listenhillary]

Why nothing on tape for 20 minutes from when they figured out they had a problem?

[Babu]

Always SEARCH before you post.

Already posted Here

[theBuckwheat]

So many armchair experts, so little real knowledge.

If an aircraft is *certified* to fly at a certain altitude, by law it must be able to be operated at that altitude, or else it is *not airworthy* and *must be grounded* until it is *repaired*.

There may have been some operational considerations or special procedures to operate this aircraft at FL410. The NTSB will be very thorough to see if the aircraft was being operated correctly or if there was a mechanical problem that caused the engine flameout.

About 15 years ago a smaller jet crashed less than a mile short of runway 13 at Columbia, Missouri (COU), which is only a few miles from Jefferson City. The cause of the crash was determined to have been ice particles in the fuel that clogged the screen in the sump.

[mhking]

"Dude! We're gonna crash!"

Just damn.

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[thegreatbeast]

I hate when that happens.