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Strategic Vision Poll June 9-13: FL Senate, FL Governor, President
Strategic Vision ^ | 6/15/2005 | Strategic Vision

Posted on 06/15/2005 10:53:16 AM PDT by JohnnyZ

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To: JohnnyZ

I just hope that whoever wins the primary Nelson gets booted. Smug SOB should be forced to retire


21 posted on 06/15/2005 1:12:09 PM PDT by DM1
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To: aynrandfreak
I saw Lord Nelson make that comment.

I own property on both the Atlantic and Gulf coasts and I'm strongly in favor of offshore drilling. The safety and efficiency of offshore rigs has been excellent, and very few are within sight of the coastline, for those with aesthetic concerns....

22 posted on 06/15/2005 1:20:52 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: Dales

Thanks, Dales.


23 posted on 06/15/2005 1:39:43 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Yknot
I wouln't vote for Harris because she is tainted by speculation and innuendo from the 2000 election.

So I guess you voted for Al Gore and John Kerry, then? I mean, George W. Bush was tainted by speculation and innuendo regarding cocaine and a DWI during the 2000 election.

24 posted on 06/16/2005 4:20:00 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Yknot
"I wouldn't vote for Harris because she is tainted by speculation and innuendo from the 2000 election."

Is it that you wouldn't vote for her, or more that you'd like to see the GOP field another candidate out of fear of high democrat turnout?

I can understand the latter, but not the former.

To say you wouldn't vote for her because she is tainted is like saying you think she is guilty. Do you?
25 posted on 06/16/2005 4:28:28 AM PDT by Preachin' (Georgia finally saw the light in 2000.)
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To: clintonh8r; SupplySide
Don’t read anything into my statement that is not in the statement. The purpose of getting her out of the election is to provide for a Republican win, not a Republican loss.

If you do not understand that in the mind of voters, perception is very, very close to reality, you have no business being in politics. Either that or you are part of the “let’s reward her for taking the heat” mentality that has put her under a cloud to begin with. Either you are for winning the Senate seat, or you are not, it is just as simple as that, and that is the only issue being discussed here.

26 posted on 06/16/2005 6:22:14 AM PDT by Yknot (It is far better to be silent and thought a fool then speak and be proved one)
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To: Yknot

I'll read into it what I please. Go back to the classroom if you want to give a lecture.


27 posted on 06/16/2005 6:32:12 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: Preachin'
I will not vote for Ms. Harris in the Republican primary because I do not believe that she has the ability to defeat Bill Nelson.

Do I believe she is guilty? Guilty of what?

Do I believe that other voters can be convinced that she is guilty of something related to the election? Yes, and that will probably be the aim and direction of the advertising campaign that will be mounted against her, I’m sure.

Do I want the best person as Florida’s senator? Yes, and I do not feel our great state will be well served with her candidacy. However there are better candidates, and I believe that they have a much better chance of winning than she.

Additionally, if she were elected, how effective would she be in the Senate? She is a walking target for any Democrat and that makes her a liability to the Republican party. Priorities friends, priorities.

Oh, clintonh8r, with regard to your last posting, please read my tag line, closely.

28 posted on 06/16/2005 10:19:11 AM PDT by Yknot (It is far better to be silent and thought a fool then speak and be proved one)
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To: Yknot
"Do I believe she is guilty? Guilty of what?"


It's just that you said this earlier:

"I wouldn't vote for Harris because she is tainted by speculation and innuendo from the 2000 election."

I wasn't sure if you were agreeing with the speculation. That's all.

"She is a walking target for any Democrat and that makes her a liability to the Republican party."

Have you been watching the GOP misbehave themselves lately?

By the way. I agree that the conservative with the best chance of winning should run. I am not very aware of the other candidates.
29 posted on 06/16/2005 10:27:17 AM PDT by Preachin' (Georgia finally saw the light in 2000.)
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To: Dales

Thank you dales.


30 posted on 06/16/2005 1:42:15 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: Preachin'
You wrote, ”I wasn't sure if you were agreeing with the speculation. That's all.”
Quite honestly, I would not swear that everything was totally above board. There is a big difference between things that are illegal or immoral, and just plain unfair. However, I do give her the same benefit of the doubt that I would want others to give to me.

You also wrote, ”Have you been watching the GOP misbehave themselves lately?”
Yes I have and it only supports my reasons for disliking all professional politicians, whether GOP or Democrat. Congress should never be divided on such things as personal armor for our troops (I was in Vietnam 37 years ago and at least had a flak jacket), armor for vehicles, or whether our reserve troops should get benefits when they get out similar to the active component.

I know that this should, perhaps, be in another thread, but I’ve started the venting process, so I might just as well continue here. I am upset with the Republican leadership for even thinking about changing the right of a member of the Senate to filibuster. Frist and friends may not like it, but they have forgotten that at some point, the GOP will be the minority party and they may want to use that ploy against the Democrats. What goes around, comes around. I am upset with Republicans who have put Senator McCain on the ship list, simply because he understood the political and procedural ramifications that using the "nuclear option" would entail and he acted to protect the Senate, as an institution. I am also mad at the president for lying to us about weapons of mass destruction. We all came to hate Clinton because he lied to us with a smile on his face, well President Bush and Rumsfeld have not done anything different.

And finally, it is very hard for me to understand why both parties play stupid political games when there is real business in Congress to be done, a country to be governed, and American kids dying overseas for lack of armor. These kids and their unit commanders are doing a fantastic job, if Congress did their job the same way, maybe our troops would be able to make it home for Christmas.

31 posted on 06/17/2005 6:14:09 AM PDT by Yknot (It is far better to be silent and thought a fool then speak and be proved one)
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To: Yknot
"I know that this should, perhaps, be in another thread, but I’ve started the venting process, so I might just as well continue here. I am upset with the Republican leadership for even thinking about changing the right of a member of the Senate to filibuster."

Get real. The right to filibuster is not being removed.

It is simply a consideration to rewrite the rules to what they were before the democrats changed them just about 15-20 years ago.

The rewrite simply takes it back to the way it was for over 200 years before the obstructionist democrats did their thing.

The democrats changed it to the current format to suit their own needs.

And you say you can't be sure if Katherine Harris was above board? She just certified the election as the Florida Constitution required.

It was the Florida Supreme Court that was not above board.
32 posted on 06/17/2005 7:42:26 AM PDT by Preachin' (Georgia finally saw the light in 2000.)
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