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To: JohnHuang2

If I'm not mistaken, the old policy of coming here just to drop a baby out your vagina is illegal, and that baby is not neccessarily a citizen.

Am I mistaken?


5 posted on 06/15/2005 1:21:22 AM PDT by SteveMcKing (What happens in Vegas -- stays on your record.)
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To: SteveMcKing

yeah.
if you drop it here, on this soil... it IS an american.


10 posted on 06/15/2005 1:54:54 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: SteveMcKing

You are mistaken. "Native born" is native born.


13 posted on 06/15/2005 3:24:40 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: SteveMcKing

You are both mistaken and unnecessarily crude.


23 posted on 06/15/2005 4:36:38 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: SteveMcKing
Fortunately, we have the highest possible authority on record to answer this question of how the term "jurisdiction" was to be interpreted and applied, the author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob M. Howard (MI) to tell us exactly what it means and its intended scope as he introduced it to the United States Senate in 1866: Mr. HOWARD: I now move to take up House joint resolution No. 127. The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, resumed the consideration of the joint resolution (H.R. No. 127) proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.
60 posted on 06/15/2005 3:33:11 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: SteveMcKing
The 14TH Amendment

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It's as clear as it can be, unlike the spin that people have to put on the Constitution to claim the Mexican babysitters are "invaders".

75 posted on 06/15/2005 8:29:45 PM PDT by bayourod (HEADS UP to all politicians: Sunday is Juneteenth. Attend as many events as possible.)
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