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"New York 9-11 Memorial will include museums on Indian genocide, black slavery genocide, more"
Fox News | 6/14/05

Posted on 06/14/2005 2:03:20 PM PDT by pabianice

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BTTT


161 posted on 06/15/2005 6:43:32 AM PDT by retrokitten (www.takebackthememorial.org)
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To: Puppage
you're right, as if there was tolerance in islam. Politicians need to stop playing dhimmis, they need to realize that islam is a poison.
162 posted on 06/15/2005 9:38:32 AM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: Ohioan
And to just whom are they answerable?

As every other government beaureacracy, they're answerable to nobody. The politicans are answerable to their unions, however.

163 posted on 06/15/2005 10:43:38 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Terriergal
Hey Nowhere Man did you ever watch that TV series on UPN?

Yeah, I did, it was so confusing. B-) I got my handle from my CB handle I used back in the 1970's when I was a kid. I always liked the Beatles' song so I chose it. I knew it came out in 1966, the year I was born but last year I did a little Googling and the Beatles released the song on July 8th, 1966, the exact date of my birth. Now that was weird. B-)
164 posted on 06/15/2005 2:54:06 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: oceanview
A memorial without rebuilding the towers would be a memorial to the terrorists. The real symbolic gesture that is absolutely necessary is to REBUILD THE TOWERS! I don't want to hear that defeatist you wouldn't find tenants because it would be a terrorist target. Thats like nobody flew after 9-11 because of fear of terrorists. Well, we got over it. Air traffic is at levels higher that it ever was. Have their been any more suicide planes since we started kickin' some muslim extremist ass all over the friggin' world? These towers can be marketed just like anything else. We need to find anchor tenants and give them incentives for being there. Some high visibility government agencies should be in there like treasury, FBI, CIA etc. Some high power corporations looking to uplift their national image could be given incentives to locate there. The towers logo could be a powerful symbol to associate with....like Prudential does with the Rock of Gibraltar. The public relations value alone would be worth the risk, especially if there were economic incentives. Once the anchors were in place the rest would follow.
This is necessary for America. One of the reasons we have lost some support and enthusiasm for the war is because we haven't connected it with how much safer we are at home.Putting up the towers would be a huge spiritual catharsis for the nation and galvanize or support for the war on muslim extremism. Those towers got to go back up. If anybody thinks that we win with some kind of sorry ass memorial to the dead they are thinking scared. America is a can do nation....no muslim arabs living in caves and on sand dunes are capable of stopping us. If we don't rebuild the towers, it says were afraid they can do it again. Come on now, be real, they used our technology and our trusting positive free spirit and combined it with a suicidal, demented, self destructive, religion to attack us without provocation. Our eyes are open now...lets rebuild and dare them to try again. I don't want to hear anything less than total commitment from those of us patriotic enough to love what we stand for.
165 posted on 06/15/2005 4:40:37 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Txsleuth
The footage we need to see is footage of the towers being rebuilt. That sends a more powerful message then dwelling on that moment of terror. We are past that . We're kickin butt in the war we need to put towers back up to show no fear. The memorial will only be to those fallen soldiers on 9-11 that other garbage just ain't gonna happen. We gotta get behind rebuilding the towers at all costs.....thats the only message we need to send!!!!!Do you agree?
166 posted on 06/15/2005 4:53:01 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; firebrand
Freeper Velveeta has an entire thread where she has been keeping track of this.

Can you provide a link as this is the first I'm learning of it and am beside myself with anger.

167 posted on 06/15/2005 5:32:04 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: StarFan; Velveeta

Velveeta was the first to bring this to all of our attention and created a nice collection of information here:

THE SOROS-IZATION OF GROUND ZERO
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418112/posts


168 posted on 06/15/2005 5:45:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; firebrand
My head is about to explode. This went completely under the radar screen to most New Yorkers or surely we would have heard the outrage. What is not clear is whether this is only in the preliminary discussion phase or it's a done deal. From the sounds in the press release on the International Freedom Center site, it sounds as if most of the groundwork has been completed . Please tell me I'm not reading it correctly.
169 posted on 06/15/2005 6:26:38 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: StarFan

I know. There are bits and pieces of information we are not getting here.

Biggest piece is, 'what happened'. It looks like it is a done deal. But how did this happen? Why? How do we fix it?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418112/posts?page=129#129

call 311 and politely leave a message for the Mayor:

Contact LMDC

Lower Manhattan Development Corporation
One Liberty Plaza, 20th Floor
New York, NY 10006
Phone: (212) 962-2300
TTY Phone: (212) 962-0045
Fax: (212) 962-2431/33

Pataki's been snookered:

The memorial, together with the cultural institutions, comprise the centerpiece of the Libeskind master site plan – and indeed, all of our rebuilding efforts.
I’m pleased to announce that next week, Mayor Bloomberg and I will reveal the design for the cultural building that will be located in the northeast corner of the memorial complex.
This unique building will serve as a gateway to the memorial and house a visitor’s center as well as two splendid cultural institutions: the International Freedom Center and the Drawing Center.

http://www.state.ny.us/governor/press/year05/may12_05-4.htm

contact the Gov:

http://www.state.ny.us/governor/form.htm (tel # there)



And this:


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44654

Desecration of Ground Zero
Posted: June 8, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

Most Americans have not been paying attention to the bureaucratic wrangling and political jockeying that has plagued the construction of the World Trade Center Memorial at Ground Zero in lower Manhattan. But it's not just New Yorkers and developers and 9-11 families who should care.

A good portion of the project is federally subsidized. All of us have not only a financial stake, but also a moral stake, in protecting the honor of the victims – and the dignity of our country.

A Blame America Monument is not what we need or deserve. But it looks like one is already in the works.

In a startling op-ed printed in the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, Debra Burlingame exposed the "Great Ground Zero Heist." Burlingame is on the board of directors of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation and the sister of Charles F. "Chic" Burlingame III, pilot of American Airlines flight 77, which terrorists crashed into the Pentagon on 9-11. She reports that the World Trade Center memorial will encompass a "cultural complex" whose primary tenant will be something called the "International Freedom Center."

According to an IFC fact sheet, the project "will be an integral part of humanity's response to September 11." An educational and cultural center will host exhibits, lectures, debates and films "that will nurture a global conversation on freedom in our world today." Tellingly though, as Burlingame notes, early plans for the center that included a large mural of an Iraqi voter were scratched in favor of a photograph of Martin Luther King Jr. and Lyndon Johnson when the designs went public. So much for nurturing that global conversation.

The center's "civic engagement network" will connect visitors to "service" opportunities. Translation: Left-wing activist recruitment center. As the fact sheet notes, "leading NGOs [non governmental organizations] will be offered outposts at the Center to reach out to its visitors."

On its face, the project may seem fairly unobjectionable enough (putting aside how far afield it all seems from the task of remembering the victims and heroes of 9-11) – until, that is, you take a closer look at the chief movers and shakers behind the project.

Tom Bernstein, a deep-pocketed Hollywood financier and real-estate mogul, is the primary driver behind the IFC. Bernstein's longtime friendship and business partnership with Yale classmate George W. Bush gives cover to his radical activism as president of Human Rights First. The group opposed Bush Attorney General Alberto Gonzales over the administration's preventive detention policies and has joined with the American Civil Liberties Union in mau-mauing the Pentagon over alleged prisoner abuse.

Among the many supposedly respectable scholars consulted on the project is Eric Foner. He's the unhinged Columbia University professor who reacted to 9-11 by griping: "I'm not sure which is more frightening: the horror that engulfed New York City or the apocalyptic rhetoric emanating daily from the White House." The IFC's list of scholars and advisers also includes left-leaning elites such as Henry Louis Gates at Harvard University; Stephen B. Heintz, IFC secretary and president of the Rockefeller Bros. Fund; Walter Isaacson, chief executive officer of the Aspen Institute; and Michael Posner, executive director of Human Rights First.

Burlingame also reports that Anthony Romero, ACLU executive director, "is pushing IFC organizers for exhibits that showcase how civil liberties in this country have been curtailed since September 11." Then there's billionaire Bush-basher George Soros, who Burlingame reports is an early funder and supporter of the IFC and whose spirit infuses this grievance-mongering enterprise.

Do we really want Ground Zero to be the playground of anti-war financiers, moral equivalence peddlers, and Guantanamo Bay alarmists? As Burlingame told me yesterday, "Ground Zero belongs to all the American people. If Ground Zero is lost, whether through negligence or malfeasance, it will be a loss that is felt for generations to come."

Richard Tofel, IFC president, is minimizing dissenters. In a statement, he told me that "we understand that a few do not" agree with the project's stated mission of promoting the "cause of freedom." The question is not whether most Americans support a monument to freedom, but whether they will stand by while saboteurs convert it into The Ultimate Guilt Complex.


170 posted on 06/15/2005 6:51:04 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

God luvs America indicated on the linked thread that when Mark Levine interviewed Debra Burlingame she asked that we write and call Pataki, Bloomberg and congresscritters expressing our outrage so perhaps there's still time to nip this in the bud? If we work on that assumption and spread the word, we might be able to halt this insanity. I will do whatever I can on my end and hope all those I e-mail will follow suit.


171 posted on 06/15/2005 7:29:17 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: photodawg

you will find anchor tenants - for the lower floors. the point is that businesses have already relocated out of that area, they had no choice since the WTC was destroyed. They aren't going to just all break their leases and come back. With all these other controversies about the site - these museums, the terrible architecture of the freedom tower, the fight in manhattan over where to build (this is what killed the west side stadium and the olympics) - its a mess. we didn't park another battleship on top of the Arizona after Pearl Harbor.


172 posted on 06/15/2005 7:30:51 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: StarFan

There was a email campaign using the contacts Velveeta posted to the Soro izatin thread. This list was also used:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1388699/posts
Email Contacts for Media, Government, USA, Europe, Consulates, Embassy and more for Activism

We all have been sending mails to our own lists, writing articles, creating more contacts, contacting media outlets...

Firebrand did mention a live freep.

We are a bit stuck and could use some legal guidance. We don't know what happened with this deal and what the options are now.


173 posted on 06/15/2005 8:09:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Dutchy; nutmeg; RaceBannon; JulieRNR21; Howlin; YaYa123; Mia T; backhoe; JohnHuang2; The Mayor; ...
"Take Back the Memorial" is an excellent resource to use. . If you're outraged, please send this to everyone you know.
174 posted on 06/15/2005 8:20:11 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: StarFan

BTTT!


175 posted on 06/15/2005 8:23:22 PM PDT by The Mayor ( Pray as if everything depends on God; work as if everything depends on you.)
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To: texas_mrs; Velveeta

I think Burlingame has a web site; do you know what it is?


176 posted on 06/15/2005 8:33:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Her website is in the thread at this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422800/posts?page=168#168


177 posted on 06/15/2005 8:36:19 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

http://takebackthememorial.com/


178 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Did anyone write to Rush or Hannity on this? I wrote to the save the site website and suggested they get a greta writer to draft a protest letter and have people digitally sign it and have it hand delivered to those in authority . They also need to take donations and get a serious promo person to push this..What a disgrace ...........


179 posted on 06/15/2005 9:06:34 PM PDT by hineybona
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To: Howlin
http://takebackthememorial.com

It’s not an American slavery memorial or “what we’ve done wrong in the world” memorial.

It’s meant to remember people killed on Sept. 11, period — end of story.

There are plenty of museums dedicated to other issues. Let this one focus on “this” issue: nearly 3,000 innocent people slaughtered. Doing anything else disgraces their memory and makes lunacy of their loss.

It would be like asking the Jews to build a museum dedicated to better understanding the Nazis — why they hated them and why they ended up gassing them by the millions.

Stop it and wake the hell up

180 posted on 06/15/2005 9:06:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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