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Conservatives, liberals align against Patriot Act
The Washington Times ^
| June 14, 2005
| James G. Lakely
Posted on 06/14/2005 12:14:50 PM PDT by neverdem
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The Washington Timeswww.washingtontimes.com
By James G. Lakely THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published June 14, 2005
Conservative groups have found common ground with the liberal American Civil Liberties Union in their opposition to the USA Patriot Act and pledge to wage a high-profile fight against it, claiming even its renewal is shrouded in secrecy.
Former Rep. Bob Barr, who led conservative efforts to impeach President Clinton, is leading a group called "Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances" that is focused exclusively on opposing the renewal of the Patriot Act.
The effort also has the enthusiastic support of three of the most influential conservatives in Washington, Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform, David Keene of the American Conservative Union and Phyllis Schlafly of the Eagle Forum.
"They support this effort because the true conservatives understand the Constitution and understand when it is threatened," Mr. Barr said. "They are not your neo-cons and typical Washington insiders. This is a broad array of conservative groups."
Brad Jansen, an adjunct scholar at the conservative Competitive Enterprise Institute, has also joined Mr. Barr's effort, and said he will prove today that opposition to the Patriot Act is a political winner.
Mr. Jansen is working for the congressional campaign of Tom Brinkman Jr., a state senator in Ohio who is among 11 candidates running in a Republican primary to fill the seat of former Rep. Rob Portman, who was tapped by President Bush as the U.S. trade representative. |
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; bang; banglist; bobbarr; davidkeene; grovernorquist; jamesglakely; patriotact; phyllisschlafly
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To: steve-b
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posted on
06/16/2005 6:40:58 AM PDT
by
kesg
To: steve-b
222
posted on
06/16/2005 6:41:28 AM PDT
by
kesg
To: kesg
Don't play at being obtuse. Down-playing the administration's breach of the pledge that the PA was strictly about terrorism makes you no better than Carvile down-playing the previous occupant's breach of his oath to tell the truth to the court.
223
posted on
06/16/2005 6:44:15 AM PDT
by
steve-b
(A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
To: steve-b
I don't remember anyone in the Administration promising that the Patriot Act would apply only to terrorists. And I wouldn't agree with them even if they did.
224
posted on
06/16/2005 10:06:54 AM PDT
by
kesg
To: pbrown; kesg
Lest you forget...
"Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity." -Lord Acton "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy" - James Madison
"If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being the gift of Almighty God, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave." - Samuel Adams
"There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetuated under the shield of law and in the name of justice." - Charles de Montesquieu
"The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience" - Albert Camus
"One of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle for independence." - Charles A. Beard
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posted on
06/16/2005 10:18:51 AM PDT
by
to_zion
To: kesg
I don't remember anyone in the Administration promising that the Patriot Act would apply only to terrorists. Try ginko bilboa.
226
posted on
06/16/2005 10:39:51 AM PDT
by
steve-b
(A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
To: steve-b
Try using a spellchecker.
227
posted on
06/16/2005 11:53:41 AM PDT
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kesg
To: to_zion
228
posted on
06/16/2005 12:00:30 PM PDT
by
kesg
To: to_zion
I have posted quotes such as yours on other threads.
Sheeple cannot see what is in front of their very eyes. It would be too much for some to take in.
229
posted on
06/16/2005 12:18:40 PM PDT
by
processing please hold
(Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
To: kesg
I actually used Google, and I'm about 30 years younger than the man pictured. At least you got the glasses right.
230
posted on
06/16/2005 1:12:34 PM PDT
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to_zion
To: kesg
The law makes it harder for terrorists and criminals alike to plot, scheme, and operate without government knowledge or interference -- and it does so in a manner fully consistent with the Constitution.BBBBWWWWWAAAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHH!!!!!
What a prole.
231
posted on
06/17/2005 6:38:04 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
To: Tench_Coxe
Never argue with a fool, after a while, no one will be able to tell the difference between yourself and the fool. The person you are responding to obviously likes to engage in mental self-abuse.There are always state-worshiping morons around, in any government, in any time.
I call them proles.
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posted on
06/17/2005 6:44:23 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
To: kesg
Thank G-d you were not present during the crafting of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You'd have had us in a tyrannical government in no time.
Let me guess: Robert Mugabe is a hero to you.
233
posted on
06/17/2005 6:50:45 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
To: Lazamataz
Let me guess: Robert Mugabe is a hero to you.Guess again. How old are you, anyway?
234
posted on
06/17/2005 7:35:44 AM PDT
by
kesg
To: kesg
Guess again. How old are you, anyway?Old enough to be against the formation of tyranny.
Unlike yourself.
235
posted on
06/17/2005 7:36:52 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
To: Lazamataz
"Guess again. How old are you, anyway?Old enough to be against the formation of tyranny.
I guess I need to rephrase my question. How old, in years, are you?
236
posted on
06/17/2005 7:40:15 AM PDT
by
kesg
To: kesg
I guess I need to rephrase my question. How old, in years, are you?I don't answer personal questions from Freepers who lovingly hold tyranny to their breast.
237
posted on
06/17/2005 7:43:05 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
To: Lazamataz
That answer confirms my suspicion. "Lovingly hold tyranny to their breast??" Dude, your writing and rhetorical skills need serious work!
238
posted on
06/17/2005 9:14:29 AM PDT
by
kesg
To: kesg
Dude, your writing and rhetorical skills need serious work!Dude, your respect for individual liberties and freedom need serious work!
239
posted on
06/17/2005 10:29:17 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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