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Ex Bush official casts doubt on cause of Sep 11 attacks (NUTJOB ALERT!)
BIG News ^ | 6/13/05

Posted on 06/14/2005 6:52:45 AM PDT by areafiftyone

A former chief economist in the Labor Department during President Bush's first term now believes the official story about the collapse of the WTC is 'bogus,' saying it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7.

'If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack on America would be compelling,' said Morgan Reynolds, Ph.D, a former member of the Bush team who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in Dallas, TX.

Reynolds, now a professor emeritus at Texas A&M University, also believes it's 'next to impossible' that 19 Arab terrorists alone outfoxed the mighty U.S. military, adding that scientific conclusions about the WTC collapse may hold the key to the entire mysterious plot behind 9/11.

'It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific debate over the cause(s) of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7,' said Reynolds this week from his offices at Texas A&M. 'If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings.

'More importantly, momentous political and social consequences would follow if impartial observers concluded that professionals imploded the WTC. Meanwhile, the job of scientists, engineers and impartial researchers everywhere is to get the scientific and engineering analysis of 9/11 right.'

However, Reynolds said 'getting it right in today's security state' remains challenging because he claims explosives and structural experts have been intimidated in their analyses of the collapses of 9/11.

From the beginning, the Bush administration claimed that burning jet fuel caused the collapse of the towers. Although many independent investigators have disagreed, they have been hard pressed to disprove the government theory since most of the evidence was removed by FEMA prior to independent investigation.

Critics claim the Bush administration has tried to cover-up the evidence and the recent 9/11 Commission has failed to address the major evidence contradicting the official version of 9/11.

Some facts demonstrating the flaws in the government jet fuel theory include:

-- Photos showing people walking around in the hole in the North Tower where 10,000 gallons of jet fuel supposedly was burning..

--When the South Tower was hit, most of the North Tower's flames had already vanished, burning for only 16 minutes, making it relatively easy to contain and control without a total collapse.

--The fire did not grow over time, probably because it quickly ran out of fuel and was suffocating, indicating without added explosive devices the fires could have been easily controlled.

--FDNY fire fighters still remain under a tight government gag order to not discuss the explosions they heard, felt and saw. FAA personnel are also under a similar 9/11 gag order.

--Even the flawed 9/11 Commission Report acknowledges that 'none of the [fire] chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible.'

-- Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11.

-- The fires, especially in the South Tower and WTC-7, were relatively small.

-- WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of this 47-story steel building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds.

-- WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams.

-- In a PBS documentary, Larry Silverstein, the WTC leaseholder, told the fire department commander on 9/11 about WTC-7 that, "may be the smartest thing to do is pull it," slang for demolish it.

-- It's difficult if not impossible for hydrocarbon fires like those fed by jet fuel (kerosene) to raise the temperature of steel close to melting.

Despite the numerous holes in the government story, the Bush administration has brushed aside or basically ignored any and all critics. Mainstream experts, speaking for the administration, offer a theory essentially arguing that an airplane impact weakened each structure and an intense fire thermally weakened structural components, causing buckling failures while allowing the upper floors to pancake onto the floors below.

One who supports the official account is Thomas Eager, professor of materials engineering and engineering systems at MIT. He argues that the collapse occurred by the extreme heat from the fires, causing the loss of loading-bearing capacity on the structural frame.

Eagar points out the steel in the towers could have collapsed only if heated to the point where it 'lost 80 percent of its strength,' or around 1,300 degrees Fahrenheit. Critics claim his theory is flawed since the fires did not appear to be intense and widespread enough to reach such high temperatures.

Other experts supporting the official story claim the impact of the airplanes, not the heat, weakened the entire structural system of the towers, but critics contend the beams on floors 94-98 did not appear severely weakened, much less the entire structural system.

Further complicating the matter is hard evidence to fully substantiate either theory, lacking due to FEMA's quick removal of the structural steel before it could be analyzed. Even though the criminal code requires that crime scene evidence be kept for forensic analysis, FEMA had it destroyed or shipped overseas before a serious investigation could take place.

And even more doubt is cast over why FEMA acted so swiftly since coincidentally officials had arrived the day before the 9/11 attacks at New York's Pier 29 to conduct a war game exercise, named 'Tripod II.'

Besides FEMA's quick removal of the debris, authorities considered the steel quite valuable as New York City officials had every debris truck tracked on GPS and even fired one truck driver who took an unauthorized lunch break.

In a detailed analysis just released supporting the controlled demolition theory, Reynolds presents a compelling case.

'First, no steel-framed skyscraper, even engulfed in flames hour after hour, had ever collapsed before. Suddenly, three stunning collapses occur within a few city blocks on the same day, two allegedly hit by aircraft, the third not,' said Reynolds. 'These extraordinary collapses after short-duration minor fires made it all the more important to preserve the evidence, mostly steel girders, to study what had happened.

'On fire intensity, consider this benchmark: A 1991 FEMA report on Philadelphia's Meridian Plaza fire said that the fire was so energetic that 'beams and girders sagged and twisted, but despite this extraordinary exposure, the columns continued to support their loads without obvious damage.' Such an intense fire with consequent sagging and twisting steel beams bears no resemblance to what we observed at the WTC.'

After considering both sides of the 9/11 debate and after thoroughly sifting through all the available material, Reynolds concludes the government story regarding all four plane crashes on 9/11 remains highly suspect.

'In fact, the government has failed to produce significant wreckage from any of the four alleged airliners that fateful day. The familiar photo of the Flight 93 crash site in Pennsylvania shows no fuselage, engine or anything recognizable as a plane, just a smoking hole in the ground,' said Reynolds. 'Photographers reportedly were not allowed near the hole. Neither the FBI nor the National Transportation Safety Board have investigated or produced any report on the alleged airliner crashes.'


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy; arabpropaganda; bahrain; kook; morganreynolds; muslim; tinfoilhat
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I just don't know what to say. I am sooo disgusted by these stupid people!
1 posted on 06/14/2005 6:52:45 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Just proves what we already knew...economists will say anything.


2 posted on 06/14/2005 6:55:51 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: areafiftyone

no wonder he's an "ex".

his tin foil hat needs a new lining, I fear.


3 posted on 06/14/2005 6:57:16 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: areafiftyone

Chief of the tin foil hat society?


4 posted on 06/14/2005 6:57:19 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: areafiftyone

"...a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7."

Huh..????

What about the millions of us who watched LIVE while the airliner crashed into the buildings?


5 posted on 06/14/2005 6:57:26 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: areafiftyone

What the heck is "Big News Network"? Who knows if this person even said these nutty things.


6 posted on 06/14/2005 6:58:10 AM PDT by saquin
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To: areafiftyone

How do such idiots get such high level jobs?


7 posted on 06/14/2005 6:58:31 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America...)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

I was there and saw it from my window - I saw the plane go into the second tower - I saw the two towers go down and the people jumping! Millions of people saw it on television. What the hell is wrong with this man. I am sooo angry!


8 posted on 06/14/2005 6:58:45 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone
He is wrong. There were never Towers in the financial district. It was a massive illusion that hypnotized the world over the past 30 years.
9 posted on 06/14/2005 6:59:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: areafiftyone
-- Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11.

Is this indicative of the logic of these people?

Hello! No other steel-frame buildings have been hit by 747s full of fuel either!

10 posted on 06/14/2005 7:00:11 AM PDT by saquin
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To: areafiftyone

Where do these crackpots come from?


11 posted on 06/14/2005 7:00:41 AM PDT by maplenut
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To: areafiftyone
Your nic is appropriate to the topic of this thread. Here's another that readers might find interesting:

Do tinfoil helmets provide adequate protection against mind control rays?

12 posted on 06/14/2005 7:00:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: saquin
Here is the info on them. They are okay - they just report news from all sources:

Big News Network.com is a specialist online news service, constantly updating around 400 categories of news on an hourly basis.

Our news is collated from our own resources, major news originators, contracted services, localised sources, World class newspapers, government media, press releases, international and regional tv (cable & free-to-air) networks, radio stations, and official bodies.

We scan the World’s media, select, and edit headlines for production on our network of news sites, and for distribution to the World Wide Web. We provide content for portals, and Web sites, spanning more than 80 countries.

Big News Network.com has been on-air since 1998.

13 posted on 06/14/2005 7:00:57 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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--The fire did not grow over time, probably because it quickly ran out of fuel and was suffocating, indicating without added explosive devices the fires could have been easily controlled.

If this moron watched the horrifying event at all he would have noticed that air was being sucked into the gaping holes in the towers, indicating that the fire was indeed receiving an adequate oxygen source. This is so much BS I need to get my suit on...

14 posted on 06/14/2005 7:01:11 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

It just goes to show you what I've been saying for years. Any economist who would work for the labor dept. is a communist. And these are the guys who calculate the unemployment statistics.

I think it would be more likely accurate to say that the recession was a fraud than to say that 911 was a fraud.


15 posted on 06/14/2005 7:01:37 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: areafiftyone
In fact, the government has failed to produce significant wreckage from any of the four alleged airliners that fateful day.

Uh, huh. So is he saying they didn't exist? What about all the "alleged" people on those flights and all their "alleged" familes? My, what an elaborate hoax!

16 posted on 06/14/2005 7:01:57 AM PDT by saquin
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To: areafiftyone
--Even the flawed 9/11 Commission Report acknowledges that 'none of the [fire] chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible.'

Neither did millions upon millions watching the attack believe the towers would fall until the top of both of them started to fatigue under the melting steel above the areas of impact.

17 posted on 06/14/2005 7:03:08 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: areafiftyone
They are okay - they just report news from all sources:

No, that means they're worthless; this is a word-for-word lifting of a rant on some random guy's website.

18 posted on 06/14/2005 7:03:24 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: areafiftyone

The Brown Acid again.


19 posted on 06/14/2005 7:03:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Form the article:

--Even the flawed 9/11 Commission Report acknowledges that 'none of the [fire] chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible.'

-- Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11.


Who expects fire chiefs to be structural engineers? The WTC has a dramatically different from typical tube frame & truss structure. It allowed a lighter frame & more open space than the more typical designs used. It also allowed a more rapid progressive collapse when exposed to conditions out of the scope for which the building was designed.


20 posted on 06/14/2005 7:04:57 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America...)
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