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Juror: Jackson 'Probably' A Molester
NBC10.com ^ | June 14, 2005

Posted on 06/14/2005 1:53:54 AM PDT by Mo1

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To: BibChr

I thought the same thing when I saw her say that.


41 posted on 06/14/2005 4:37:30 AM PDT by thomas16
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To: Mo1

is the entire state of California star struck?


42 posted on 06/14/2005 4:42:44 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: L,TOWM
Everyone, even MJ on videotape, admits that he and the kid slept on the same bed together.

Merely sleeping in the same bed, doesn't equal hanky panky. Kids sleep with parents, with grandparents, etc. at various times. I've heard that illegals have several people to a bed of different ages and both sexes. I doubt they are getting frisky with each other.

43 posted on 06/14/2005 4:43:19 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: L,TOWM
I still don't know why they did'nt vote guilty on the misdemeanor "lewd acts with a minor". Everyone, even MJ on videotape, admits that he and the kid slept on the same bed together.

Sleeping is not a lewd act.

44 posted on 06/14/2005 4:44:01 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: Mo1

Deja Vu all over again. One of O.J's jurors said he probably did it but the prosecution didn't remove reasonable doubt.....(he could have left his drivers license at the scene and that bunch of morons wouldn't have convicted). So now we have MJ, free to have overnighters at Neverland, stupid, idioic parents that will allow their children to go and the list goes on. Pedophilia, is NOT treatable, cannot be cured and these people NEED to be locked away. In MJ's case, even if he isn't a pedophile, needs to be locked up for disfiguring his face! That shows some nutso problems right there..(sarcasm). *~*


45 posted on 06/14/2005 4:46:19 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Always Right
The problem was the prosecution overcharged in this case and lost credibility with the jury. By including the kidnapping and conspiracy charges which were weak,

Shapiro was on O'Reilly last night, and this was basically his point. (He was especially scornful of the prosecutor's asking "what we've learned" -- he said, after 30 years practice, this isn't law school!) He noted that if the prosecution hadn't gone with the conspiracy and kidnapping, the mother would have been kept out of it, eliminating a major distraction from the molestation charges.

46 posted on 06/14/2005 4:46:40 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Mo1

I bet they'd have found him guilty if he was black


47 posted on 06/14/2005 4:47:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: laredo44
The fact that they didn't convict on the alcohol charges calls their entire process for determining guilt into question in my opinion. Has anyone asked jurors why the didn't?

Didn't the defense at one point have a witness trying to impeach the accuser's and his brother's characters by testifying that he'd seen them at Neverland, drinking and looking at porn? Considering they were allegedly under Michael's supervision at the time, isn't that an admission that he let them have alcohol as a prelude to lewd activities?

Personally, I don't think these 12 dunderheads would have found him guilty if he'd been charged with having a nose job.

48 posted on 06/14/2005 4:49:07 AM PDT by HHFi
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Merely sleeping in the same bed, doesn't equal hanky panky.

A stranger inviting children into his bed is not exactly a slumber party. There have been too many accusations, including ones that MJ has paid to keep quiet.

Then there are the showers and vasoline.

49 posted on 06/14/2005 4:49:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Dawgreg

The new question is : When does MJ start sleeping with kids again?

I say "Soon". His justification will be "If I stopped, I'd be proving I was guilty".


50 posted on 06/14/2005 4:51:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy

Oh yeah?! Well I'd bet they'd hanged him if he was WHITE!!!


51 posted on 06/14/2005 4:59:48 AM PDT by johnny7 ('Mama T' has seen her husbands 'dishonorable discharge'.)
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To: Jay Howard Smith

Jacko will never be prosecuted again -- he will claim he is being persecuted and will get away with it.

Only in California would we be stupid enough to let this molestor go. Don't forget, this is the same state that let some kids go after seeing TAPES of them sexually molesting an unconscious girl.


52 posted on 06/14/2005 5:02:24 AM PDT by m87339 (Squawk: "Plane is rough on Autoland" Response: "Autoland not installed on this equipment")
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To: ncountylee
Guilty or not the prosecutor Tom Sneddon is guilty of being out of control and incompetent.

You nailed it. He made too big a production out of it. He should've stuck to basic, provable facts instead of trying to throw the book at him.

Remember Gil Garcetti? Instead of trying the Rodney King cops with assault, he went with Attempted Murder among other things, and there was no way they could prove it. So the cops walked, and started one of the worst riots (Watts II) in California history.

Self-aggrandizement is a big problem with DAs, because like any other lawyer, they want glory and publicity for their career or their book. If they just do their job right, they'll get all the glory they need, but some of them don't see that.

53 posted on 06/14/2005 5:06:31 AM PDT by Marauder (Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Oh sure, grown men with gay porn and glasses of wine in their rooms with little boys. They're just sleeping together to save space.


54 posted on 06/14/2005 5:06:51 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: AppyPappy

Right you are........and maybe a new tatic should be applied here...........arrest ANY parent that would allow their child to stay at Neverland!


55 posted on 06/14/2005 5:07:34 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Mo1
What got me was the bizarre emotional behavior of the "fans" in the crowd.

Yesterday after the verdict, the "fans", many of them ADULTS, went bonkers, hugging, kissing and crying as though their whole lives hinged on Jackson being released.

An interesting theory is that the current lack of religion in people's lives has created a vacuum......a vacuum filled by worshiping public figures. Jackson is a god to these aimless and immature people. Their very existence and salvation depended on Whacko being set free after an "unjustified" crucifixtion. It's very cultish.

When you believe in nothing, you'll soon believe in anything.

Leni

56 posted on 06/14/2005 5:08:39 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Remember, Half the People You Know are Below Average)
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To: johnny7

"Oh yeah?! Well I'd bet they'd hanged him if he was WHITE!!!"

Well some honky made the alcohol MJ gave to the kids. So that makes it Bush's fault.


57 posted on 06/14/2005 5:09:17 AM PDT by American Vet Repairman
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To: Mo1
Here's the truth.

"Jackson was probably a child molester"..

They didn't like the Mother and thought she was a grifter, but in reality, she is just the type of person who WANTED Jackson to molest her son for the $$$$$. They couldn't see that.

58 posted on 06/14/2005 5:13:20 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Mo1
Honestly, I think this is a case where someone has established such a reputation for bizarre behavior that these people were willing to extend him the benefit of the doubt on any excuse he could come with. If a normal human being had tried to excuse his behavior with the excuses Jackson did, he'd be in prison today because nobody would believe there was anything "innocent" about his behavior. But Jackson's figured out the schtick: establish a reputation for weird but "innocent" behavior, pick victims whose families have a lack of character, and then play misunderstood, childlike vicitm yourself when called on your behavior.

I can't say I know if he's guilty of what he was accused of. But yeah, he's a pedophile whether he's acted illegally on those urges or not. That this is even in doubt given his admitted behavior boggles the mind.

59 posted on 06/14/2005 5:15:48 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: American Vet Repairman
Correction; “Jesus-Juice”
60 posted on 06/14/2005 5:21:27 AM PDT by johnny7 ('Mama T' has seen her husbands 'dishonorable discharge'.)
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