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[Kansas Education] Board member Morris: Evolution a 'fairy tale'
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 13 June 2005 | JOHN HANNA

Posted on 06/13/2005 6:23:59 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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1 posted on 06/13/2005 6:23:59 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
A pro-evolution science list with over 280 names.
See the list's description at my freeper homepage.
Then FReepmail to be added or dropped.

2 posted on 06/13/2005 6:25:06 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

No one ever said we were evolving toward beauty.

Nice enough?


3 posted on 06/13/2005 6:26:36 PM PDT by Steve_Stifler
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To: PatrickHenry

Dinosaurs = Jesus Horses.


4 posted on 06/13/2005 6:26:40 PM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: All
In case anyone cares to learn a bit about the subject before sounding off:
The List-O-Links.
How to argue against a scientific theory.
5 posted on 06/13/2005 6:30:09 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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If by scientific analysis, the TOE can be shown to be flawed in one or more areas then why are evolutionists not willing to discuss it? Is it the tie-in with creationism that they dislike or just criticism of the theory in general?
6 posted on 06/13/2005 6:37:01 PM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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New species of fruit flies...?


7 posted on 06/13/2005 6:37:58 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mulch
re: If by scientific analysis, the TOE can be shown to be flawed in one or more areas then why are evolutionists not willing to discuss it?)))

What you have here is a fanatic, a crank, an obsessive ... all kinds of news to discuss, all kinds of politics to bandy about in a political forum, but someone just wants to take on those barefoot ignorants who dare to wonder if this theory just might have a few large holes in it...

8 posted on 06/13/2005 6:42:23 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mulch

Haven't you been paying attention lately?

We're all evolving to be gay.

Ape-like ancestor, Kro-Magnon, Homo-Sapien, Homo-Sexual.

Just like the flies!!!!


9 posted on 06/13/2005 6:43:10 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("It would be a hard government that should tax its people 1/10th part of their income."-Ben Franklin)
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To: Mulch
If by scientific analysis, the TOE can be shown to be flawed in one or more areas then why are evolutionists not willing to discuss it? Is it the tie-in with creationism that they dislike or just criticism of the theory in general?

The Creation/ID folks have no interest in science or evolution except to destroy them where their particular religious beliefs afford them different viewpoints.

Why should scientists pay any attention to folks who get their scientific training and political motivation from Genesis? They're not out to correct flaws in evolution but to destroy it completely!

Now, here is another creation story for the C/ID folks!


Haida Creation Story

Long ago no divisions existed between humans, animals and spirits. All things of the earth, sky, and, water were connected and all beings could pass freely between them. The Raven was a trickster full of supernatural power. He stole the sun from his grandfather Nasshahkeeyalhl and made the moon and stars from it. The Raven created lakes, rivers and filled the lands with trees. He divided night and day, then pulled the tides into a rhythm. He filled the streams with fresh water, scattered the eggs of salmon and trout, and placed animals in the forests. The first human was hiding in a giant clamshell and Raven released them onto the beaches and gave humans fire. Raven disappeared and took with him the power of the spirit world to communicate and connect with humans.


10 posted on 06/13/2005 6:45:58 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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LOL


11 posted on 06/13/2005 6:46:10 PM PDT by cubram
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To: Coyoteman

Other wild theories from zealous believers:

Man descended from early aardvark

UK Times online ^ | January 21, 2003 | Mark Henderson, Science Correspondent

EVERY mammal, including Man, is descended from a creature that was genetically similar to the modern aardvark, scientists have found.

The last common ancestor of the placental mammals lived about 100 million years ago and had a genetic profile that is closer to that of the African anteater than to any other species that survives today, according to new research.

Detailed analysis of the chromosomes of several representative species — including aardvarks, African and Asian elephants and human beings — has revealed that the aardvark has the greatest number of features in common with other mammals. That suggests that it is the closest living relative of our common ancestor — a kind of mammalian missing link.

The findings, by British, Chinese and South African scientists, do not necessarily mean that the last common mammalian ancestor looked like a modern aardvark, or that it survived by eating insects.

They show, however, crucial chromosomal similarities that will cast important new light on the process by which mammals evolved and came to dominate the Earth. Details of the study are published today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Fengtang Yang, of Cambridge University, who led the research, said: “The chromosomal make-up of the common ancestor closely resembles that of the modern aardvark. The ancestor, though, was not necessarily morphologically similar: chromosomal evolution and morphological evolution are not always parallel.”

The aardvark, which means “earth pig” in Afrikaans, is a nocturnal animal that lives all over Africa, ranging from southern Egypt to the Cape of Good Hope. It grows to about 5ft or 6ft in length, which includes a 2ft tail, and resembles a hump-backed, long-snouted overgrown rat.

It is an insectivore that thrives on ants and termites, which it collects using its long tongue and sticky saliva. The Latin name for the species is Orycteropus afer, meaning “one that has feet for digging, from Africa”, and it is the only member of the order Tubulidentata — one of the 18 orders of mammal.

The genetic study, which also involved researchers from Stellenbosch University in South Africa and the Chinese Academy of Sciences, examined the chromosomes of the aardvark, the African and Asian elephants, and people. Existing data about the chromosomal structure of other species, such as cattle, dogs and cats, were included.

The scientists said that the common ancestor probably belonged to a mammalian “super order” known as Afrotheria, which includes the aardvark and both species of elephant.


12 posted on 06/13/2005 6:51:22 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("It would be a hard government that should tax its people 1/10th part of their income."-Ben Franklin)
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To: From many - one.

check later


13 posted on 06/13/2005 6:51:27 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Mulch
If by scientific analysis, the TOE can be shown to be flawed in one or more areas then why are evolutionists not willing to discuss it? Is it the tie-in with creationism that they dislike or just criticism of the theory in general?

The ID movement's modus operandi is to spout old creationist arguments - with updated rhetoric - and loudly claim a controversy within science. And by golly, the public schools should "teach our the controversy!"

As a PR strategy it's brilliant, but as an actual, honest scientific critique it's barren.

14 posted on 06/13/2005 6:52:01 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING: SQL Queries for Mere Mortals by Hernandez & Viescas)
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To: TitansAFC
The scientists said that the common ancestor probably belonged to a mammalian “super order” known as Afrotheria, which includes the aardvark and both species of elephant.

Now that's some family tree!

15 posted on 06/13/2005 6:53:38 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: PatrickHenry

An article I read in Xinhua a while back describes evolution as a secular humanist religion. The author was commenting about the "hypocracy" of American "moralists."

All I'm saying is, if they can see it...


16 posted on 06/13/2005 6:54:14 PM PDT by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: PatrickHenry

You, again...


17 posted on 06/13/2005 6:55:05 PM PDT by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: Coyoteman

---"The scientists said that the common ancestor probably belonged to a mammalian “super order” known as Afrotheria, which includes the aardvark and both species of elephant."---

---"Now that's some family tree!"---

Oh.....if only I could draw, I could have so much fun with this.....LOL


18 posted on 06/13/2005 6:55:40 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("It would be a hard government that should tax its people 1/10th part of their income."-Ben Franklin)
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To: Mamzelle
What you have here is a fanatic, a crank, an obsessive ... all kinds of news to discuss, all kinds of politics to bandy about in a political forum, but someone just wants to take on those barefoot ignorants who dare to wonder if this theory just might have a few large holes in it...

The theory of evolutin had more than a few holes in it. Darwinism is shot full of holes, likewise neo darwinism and punctuated equilibrium. Mutation has been proven to be false from experiments with fruit flies, Macro evolution has bit the dust due to no transitional fosils in the fosil record and none alive today.

I am not a creationist,I am not an evolutionist, I am a person in search of the truth and the truth is neither creationist or evolutionist can prove or recreate their theories.

Therefore there is a third theory that hasn't been discovered yet, one that explains everything.

Actually if you were to look at the evidence now, creationist are in the lead, but still they haven't proven anything. Let the bashing commence.

19 posted on 06/13/2005 6:57:41 PM PDT by calex59
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Can you help me understand the evolutionist's argument regarding the statistical probability question regarding evolution?
20 posted on 06/13/2005 7:01:02 PM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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