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Gone to Pot
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| 06/12/2005
| Adam Graham
Posted on 06/13/2005 12:01:32 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: highball
They're not the only ones who fall into this trap - plenty of otherwise reasonable conservatives get fooled into thinking this is an issue of stoners vs. normal people. "Heck, I don't use drugs, why should I mind if the federal government increases its power to police drug use?"
"What is ominous is the ease with which some people go from saying that they don't like something to saying that the government should forbid it. When you go down that road, don't expect freedom to survive very long."
-- Thomas Sowell
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posted on
06/13/2005 1:48:04 PM PDT
by
dread78645
(Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
To: dread78645
A chilling quote. Little long for a tagline, or I'd borrow it.
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:00:34 PM PDT
by
highball
To: Keyes2000mt
I search my Constitution in vain for any section that allows the Federal government to forbid medical marijuana Only specific enumerated powers herein granted by the Constitution exist. In other words, unless the Constitution specifically says Congress can, Congress can't.
You will not find any specific enumerated power that allows Congress to prohibit the citizen of medical marijuana, marijuana, alcohol, or anything else you can think of.
Article 1, Section 1 - All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States...
To: Dead Corpse
"Thanks for nothing to all those a$$bat WoDdies"
ummmm, what?
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:26:57 PM PDT
by
cubram
To: cubram
By pushing the Drug War under the unConstitutional stretching of the Commerce Clause, it has now come back around to bite gun owners in the arse.
Not exactly difficult to understand. Did you have a more specific question?
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:29:31 PM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
To: Dead Corpse
Understand your complaint, but don't know what a "a$$bat WoDdie" is. Guess it's not important.
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:32:14 PM PDT
by
cubram
To: cubram
Well, an a$$bat is part of the new Internet slang compendium. A cross between a moon bat and an a$$hole. A WoDdie is a War on Drugs supporter.
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:33:58 PM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
To: Dead Corpse
Mind your language, please - don't want you to be banned :-).
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:37:33 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
To: Tax-chick
Eh... hence the "$$". For the most part they are acceptable as self-censoring devices.
Not that I wanna be a farking nitpicky icehole about it. Those bastichez can rot in hill.
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:40:58 PM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
To: Dead Corpse
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:41:41 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(No! I don't want a socialist muffin in a boat!)
To: Tax-chick
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posted on
06/13/2005 2:55:31 PM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
To: Dead Corpse
Just like it was never about the drugs, it isn't about the guns either.It's all about CONTROL. Their control over us.
I remember back in 1986 or 1987, when that college basketball player, Len Bias, overdosed on cocaine and died. I also remember the media and the government going ape-sh*t over it, and screaming for more Federal powers to combat evil drugs.
Even back then, I saw the escalation of the "Drug War" as having nothing to do with drugs. Rather, it was a massive power grab designed to eviscerate the Bill of Rights in general, and the 4th Amendment specifically.
So let me say with bitter sarcasm and extreme prejudice, "Thank You, oh naive and gullible Drug War supporters, for ushering in the end of the Republic, and the emergence of the totalitarian super-nanny-state!"
Hey, we've got no rights to our property, our children, our bodily fluids, or finances! But at least we're DRUG FREE.
(SPITS) That kind of freedom is Orwellian, described in "1984" as "That dog is free of lice".
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posted on
06/13/2005 6:07:53 PM PDT
by
FierceDraka
(The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
To: FierceDraka
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posted on
06/14/2005 3:29:12 AM PDT
by
tomakaze
(Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
To: FierceDraka
Hey, we've got no rights to our property, our children, our bodily fluids, or finances! But at least we're DRUG FREE.You're half right. We're nowhere near drug free, nor are we even headed in that direction ... the street prices of illegal drugs are stable or falling.
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posted on
06/15/2005 12:43:17 PM PDT
by
Know your rights
(The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
To: joe fonebone
when the president sits on his hands Ummm, not exactly. It's his own administration pushing this usurpation of the constitution. They argued for this, and won with the imbeciles on the SCOTUS.
So far, he has supported the repeal of the first amendment (CFR) and the forth (Patriot act) and now the tenth. But hey, there's three years left, I wonder what else they want trash.
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posted on
06/15/2005 12:52:34 PM PDT
by
Protagoras
(I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
To: highball
Here's the problem I have with most of the anti-drug crowd. They make it personal. They dislike drugs, so they dislike all people who don't favor drug laws."What is ominous, is the ease with which some people go from stating that they don't like something, to saying that the government should forbid it. When you go down that road, don't expect freedom to survive very long."
Thomas Sowell
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posted on
06/15/2005 12:59:35 PM PDT
by
Protagoras
(I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
To: coloradan
They'd rather live in a drug-free totalitarian state than a liberty-minded Republic in which pot was legal. Y'know, I don't think many nazi's had a big problem with fascism.
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posted on
06/15/2005 1:02:37 PM PDT
by
68 grunt
(3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
To: highball
They make it personal
They have to. Every legitimate scientific, medical and legal study has recommended decriminalisation of marijuana. Even the Shafer Commission appointed by Nixon in 1972 to prove the dangers of marijuana found just the opposite and recommended decriminalisation. Nixon promised he would support the recommendation of the commission. When they returned with a verdict that wasn't in line with his Quaker beliefs, he broke his promise, and launched the modern war on marijuana.
Marijuana prohibition is Faith Based and that makes it nearly impossible to deal with. You can't use fact and reason to convince those following religious dogma to change their minds and support Constitutional liberties.
...
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posted on
06/15/2005 1:06:59 PM PDT
by
mugs99
To: Andy from Beaverton
Back in my 'yute'... I worked with a dude like him. I was always high... but this guy was miles above me. One day he came past my cube and said
Dude... the toilets are breathing!Turned out... there was some kind of pressure problem in the building and the water levels were fluctuating.
One afternoon we all stopped at a local watering-hole for a beer after work. When we were leaving, a van rolls into the parking lot and the side door slides open.
Stumbling out in a HUGE cloud of reefer-smoke... you guessed it... just like in the movie!
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posted on
06/15/2005 1:07:26 PM PDT
by
johnny7
('Mama T' has seen her husbands 'dishonorable discharge'.)
To: mugs99
... You can't use fact and reason to convince those following religious dogma to change their minds and support Constitutional liberties. These are the suckers who've fallen for the anti-christ's deception. Ain't gonna be no room on the head of a pin for them.
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posted on
06/15/2005 1:09:22 PM PDT
by
68 grunt
(3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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