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To: betty boop; PatrickHenry; marron; xzins; ohioWfan; TXnMA; Junior; orionblamblam; ...

Just a ping hoping that y'all are interested in this project...


2 posted on 06/13/2005 7:51:34 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

A most worthy project and bump for all your work on this.


3 posted on 06/13/2005 7:52:51 AM PDT by Peach
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A most thoughtful post, A-Girl. I don't know how much I'm going to get into this, but it's certainly worth a ping to the evolution list. Cranking up the ping machine ...
17 posted on 06/13/2005 8:08:24 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

I do not want to make a response as long as your post.

I think your intentions do not warrant it.

I think the majority of conservatives should avoid getting caught up at all in political battles about evolution vs creationism vs intelligent design; the entire issue does not stand anywhere near the heart of conservatism in general nor is it at the heart of the major problems that plaugue the country - from a conservative perspective. It is a way-down-there-at-the-bottom side issue and far below the basic problems with Marxist oriented judges and academic insttutions; and the left's constant success at achieving its goals through the courts and acadmemically indocrinated dogma, when it can't when democratically.

The fringe issue of evolution vs creationism vs intelligent design does not help conservatives win on the basic conservative issues of how our government is supposed to be organized and work (as opposed to what someone wants to achieve out of that properly working government). This fringe issue attempts to place legitimate, overall, general conservative goals into a minority's agenda, much like leftists do to the agenda of Democrats. I want no part of it and will not contribute to it.

You are not "unChristian" if you do not accept either Creationism or Intellligent Design.

First off intelligent design was brought out to offer the same arguments as Creationism, ony to leave the religious sentiment out of it. It is a masquerade and it has never worked.

Secondly, the majority of Christians accept that (1)actual creation is a mystery of God and one we do not have to understand, God does not expect us to understand, salvation does not depend on our understanding it and (2) which the Bible explains in mostly allegory, not "history". The truth is in the spiritual meaning if you have the ears and the faith to hear it. Some people will read many things in the Bible their whole lives and never hear what is really being said. The truth is not the story; it is spiritual and moral truth embeded in the story. That is why the Bible can be followed on many levels.

Therefore, many Christians can accept God's "intelligent design" in the universe, even in the acceptance of "evolution" and "DNA" and astrophycics and many other scientific areas as wonderous examples of knowledge about WHAT God has created because we know, that in spite of all we know, we have no idea HOW God created all of this. The greatest scientists have never bought into either Creationism or Intelligent Design, but they have all seen the hand of God, or "the creator" or "intelligence" behind their greatest discoveries.

Conservatives, if we want to keep advancing, should relegate the issue of Creationism and Intelligent Design to the place they belong, which is the same place as American Marxists - on the fringes of important political discourse.


80 posted on 06/13/2005 9:46:53 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Alamo-Girl

Wow!!! This is fantastic, Alamo-Girl! Thank you oh so very much for all your hard work on this project!


93 posted on 06/13/2005 10:20:36 AM PDT by betty boop (Nature loves to hide. -- Heraclitus)
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