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Understanding History: Slavery and the American South
EverVigilant.net ^ | 06/09/2005 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 06/13/2005 6:08:24 AM PDT by sheltonmac

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1 posted on 06/13/2005 6:08:24 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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2 posted on 06/13/2005 6:08:48 AM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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Sheltonmac ping!


3 posted on 06/13/2005 6:09:03 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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By seconds......


4 posted on 06/13/2005 6:09:53 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

You're slowing down in your old age! ;-)


5 posted on 06/13/2005 6:12:11 AM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: sheltonmac
What is also interesting is that owning slaves was not a "white" thing in America. Free Blacks, Mexicans and Indians owned Blacks slaves (and Indians also had slaves before Whites ever came to North America but that is another topic).

For example, about one-third of the 10,600 free blacks in New Orleans in 1860 were slave owners.
6 posted on 06/13/2005 6:13:00 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Most of this anti-Southern bigotry stems from an ignorance regarding the institution of slavery.

Or just ignorance generally.

7 posted on 06/13/2005 6:13:47 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: sheltonmac

Old Age and BC (Before Coffee)!


8 posted on 06/13/2005 6:14:17 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT
9 posted on 06/13/2005 6:14:32 AM PDT by soozla (Leaders KNOW the way, GO the way and SHOW the way.)
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To: sheltonmac
Who the hell cares? When are we as a country going to get past this issue? Our country is being infiltrated by terrorists and illegal aliens by the thousands while we continue to fight and debate the civil war. We should be focusing on the threat today (the terrorist are), instead of reliving the civil war.
10 posted on 06/13/2005 6:15:50 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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bttt


11 posted on 06/13/2005 6:16:16 AM PDT by lunarbicep ("Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." - G. B. Shaw)
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To: 2banana

How many of those were actually mulatto children of slave masterrs who inherited the slaves? Many of the free people of color in Louisiana came about their slaves by inheritance didn't they? How many blacks owned white people?


12 posted on 06/13/2005 6:16:37 AM PDT by cyborg (I am ageless through the power of the Lord God.)
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To: sheltonmac

The PC crowd never acknowledges that the United States did not establish slavery in North America, we ended it. Slavery was the product of European Empires trying to make more profit from their colonies. Firmly implanted in the U.S. at the time the Constitution was ratified, efforts to end slavery were culminating when the war between the states started. Any historian worth their salt acknowledges that slavery would have ended before the 19th century without the war, and race relations today would be much better.


13 posted on 06/13/2005 6:18:15 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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More often than not, nations fall from within. The biggest threat this country has ever faced or will ever face is the expansion of federal power over American lives and liberties.


14 posted on 06/13/2005 6:19:24 AM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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When are we as a country going to get past this issue?

A question solved by violence must remain unsolved forever.
- Jefferson Davis-

15 posted on 06/13/2005 6:19:52 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Any historian worth their salt acknowledges that slavery would have ended before the 19th century without the war, and race relations today would be much better.

I guess waiting another 40 or 50 years might be poor consolation when someone owns you and your family. That being said, the 10th ammendment SHOULD have been defended. It's really too bad that our forefathers picked that particular issue on which to take their stand and to attack a federal fort.

16 posted on 06/13/2005 6:22:12 AM PDT by rhombus
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Lincoln defeated the Slaver rebellion which instigators had been trying to provoke for almost a decade prior to the war. By doing so he ensured that the ideals of the revolution were preserved and that the US would become the most powerful force in history to spread Liberty. Had the tyranny of the Slavers been successful Freedom's greatest light would have been extinguished. Thanks Abe.

It is particularly amusing that the Secessionist plot to elect Lincoln and split the nation failed. The foul plot hatched in Charleston to split the Democrat party so that Lincoln would be elected and the South revolt was crushed by those who understood and cared about what America stood for.


17 posted on 06/13/2005 6:27:30 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: sheltonmac

You cannot change the outcome of the civil war, it's history. You can however focus much needed attention on our borders which is an issue that we can affect. What happened to the nationalist spirit in this country after 911? Seems we're right back to searching for ways to divide rather than to unite all while ignoring the fact that we are being invaded from the south. Like the song says I guess we have forgotten.


18 posted on 06/13/2005 6:28:41 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: blaquebyrd

The biggest threats today aren't terrorists or illegal aliens, they comes from within, not unlike the causes of the Civil War.


19 posted on 06/13/2005 6:29:05 AM PDT by kenth
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To: advance_copy

Unfortunately for your rosy thesis the Slavers were bound and determined that slavery not end. That is EXACTLY why they started the war.


20 posted on 06/13/2005 6:29:42 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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