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1 posted on 06/12/2005 8:39:56 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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That does it. Amnesty International is right. Shut down Gitmo.


45 posted on 06/12/2005 9:18:00 AM PDT by Tribune7
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Over the next few days, al-Qahtani is subjected to a drill known as Invasion of Space by a Female, and he becomes especially agitated by the close physical presence of a woman.

I can get agitated by the close physical presence of a woman myself. Not as much as when I was younger, but still enough. The problem was, I sometimes couldn't speak intelligently. Maybe that's why we can't get good intelligence out of these guys.

49 posted on 06/12/2005 9:22:07 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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Torture:
    1. Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.
    2. An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain.
  1. Excruciating physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of waiting in suspense.
  2. Something causing severe pain or anguish.

60 posted on 06/12/2005 9:34:47 AM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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And I was mad at the underwear on the head and the pissing on the Toran. This is really disturbing.


61 posted on 06/12/2005 9:36:07 AM PDT by Always Right
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Christina Aguilera's "music" would definitely irritate me. But it indicates what girly men the Al Qaeda prisoners are that they can't tolerate her skankish gyrations. What's next on the intolerable list for them, breaking a nail?

Regards, Ivan


64 posted on 06/12/2005 9:43:53 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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You can read the entire article from Time Mag here.

A couple of quick excerpts:

Pentagon officials tell TIME that most of the intelligence gleaned from those sessions was recorded in other documents. But the interrogation log gives a rare window into the techniques used by the U.S. military, suggesting at least in this case that disclosures were sometimes obtained not when al-Qahtani was under duress but when his handlers eased up on him.
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How should a democratic nation proceed when it captures a high-value prisoner like al-Qahtani, when unlocking a mind might save lives?

Experts acknowledge that brute torture generally doesn't work because a person will say anything to stop the pain. So what, exactly, is effective? And when do the ends justify the means?

Having read through the article I can state there is nothing that has been done to him that I would object to if it were done to me.

Gulag, indeed!!

66 posted on 06/12/2005 9:46:34 AM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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Maybe Amnesty International has a point on this one...*grin*
68 posted on 06/12/2005 9:49:50 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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Time's "source" is obviously Qahtani's lawyer.


72 posted on 06/12/2005 9:56:02 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "Bravo" -- EODTIM69; "Very good!" -- pepperdog)
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How about a duet of Micheal Bolton and Christina Aguilera?
Now that would be inhumane torture!


73 posted on 06/12/2005 9:57:46 AM PDT by willk
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"... Nevertheless, the log shows that interrogators poured bottles of water on al-Qahtani's head when he refused to drink. Interrogators called this game "Drink Water or Wear It."

That's my USMC alright!

Semper FI.

78 posted on 06/12/2005 10:02:12 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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Make them watch an NPR Begathon!! That will make anyone talk.

PRay for W and Our Troops

80 posted on 06/12/2005 10:04:22 AM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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I want to see for myself the log entry saying "0415: Daily wake-up kick to the balls issued to all detainees."


81 posted on 06/12/2005 10:07:16 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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Hey they really want sheer torture, maybe they should try playing the speeches of Hitlery Clinton.


83 posted on 06/12/2005 10:18:14 AM PDT by EdHallick ("KAAAAAAAAAAHN!" - Capt. James T. Kirk)
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Christina is Half Lebanese. Lebanese music critics and the Lebanese in general are/were extremely proud of her accomplishments.

The best torture you can impose upon a fundamental Islamist, full view of the future the Arab youth mightily embrace.

Even if many Lebanese and Arabs have as little regard for her actual vocal talents as Westerners do.


90 posted on 06/12/2005 10:31:40 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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"kind of document that was never meant to leave Gitmo."

There should be an investigation of who released it and why. I assume it's someone who is not fond of Gitmo and should be gone ASAP. I don't care if they shoved their heads in a toilet everyday. Prisoners are getting treated better than the taxpayer's who are paying for their care. Just because some American hating group like the ACLU, etc. says we are treating them bad doesn't mean anything since they are obviously lunatics and nothing the United States does makes them happy.

91 posted on 06/12/2005 10:32:01 AM PDT by kcvl
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Apparently, this week is Gitmo week.

The MSM is going to keep searing pressure on the gov't with leaks like this until it buckles and either (a) closes Gitmo or (b) calls an independent review of detention/interrogation practices.


95 posted on 06/12/2005 10:34:24 AM PDT by RegT
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On Dec. 2, Rumsfeld approved 16 of 19 stronger coercive methods. Now the interrogators could use stress strategies like standing for prolonged periods, isolation for as long as 30 days, removal of clothing, forced shaving of facial hair, playing on "individual phobias" (such as dogs) and "mild, non-injurious physical contact such as grabbing, poking in the chest with the finger and light pushing."

This is the "tougher torture" techniques that the left is in such an uproar over? Coercive? Maybe. Unpleasant? Sure. But torture? Not even close.

96 posted on 06/12/2005 10:34:26 AM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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Would Christina be a biological weapon? That could bring in the weapons inspectors looking for WMD.


104 posted on 06/12/2005 11:05:37 AM PDT by MilleniumBug
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Call me a skeptic, but this seems like classic disinfo, let out to deceive the enemy into believing their people in our custody aren't talking, or to just build fear and confuse the hell out of them. Can't tell for sure, but something about the story smells fishy.


106 posted on 06/12/2005 11:11:48 AM PDT by appeal2
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Helen Thomas must be a sex symbol to a muslim...
They have the muslims all wrong.. She would remind them of their camel or goat..
114 posted on 06/12/2005 11:43:08 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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