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VN Prime Minister to visit Bush:Urge Bush to let him know Human Rights Matter
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 6/12.05 | Robert Caldwell

Posted on 06/12/2005 7:30:09 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET

San Diego Union-Tribune

Message to Hanoi: Human rights matter

By Robert J. Caldwell June 12, 2005

President Bush, meet Li Thi Hong Lien. You may not recall her name but pressure from your administration helped get her released from prison in Vietnam on April 28. Ms. Lien's "crime" was being a Mennonite, a devout Christian denomination harshly suppressed by the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.

Compass Direct Li Thi Hong Lien, a resident of the former Saigon, after being rearrested and interrogated because of her Christian faith. During almost a year of imprisonment, this 21-year old Sunday school teacher was so badly beaten by her jailers that her jaw was broken and she suffered a mental breakdown. As World magazine reporter Priya Abraham wrote recently, Ms. Lien has thus become a poster child for persecuted Christians in Vietnam. The plight of Li Thi Hong Lien and of hundreds of thousands of other persecuted believers, Christian and non-Christian alike, in Vietnam is emminently newsworty on its own. It's especially notable now on the eve of a milestone in U.S.-Vietnam relations.

On June 21, President Bush is to welcome Vietnam's prime minister, Phan Van Khai, to the White House. It will mark the highest level visit of a Vietnamese official since the Vietnam War ended in 1975. Khai's visit will also denote the 10th anniversary of the official normalization of diplomatic relations between Washington and Hanoi.

With U.S.-Vietnam trade topping $6 billion a year, the U.S. Navy paying ceremonial port visits and Hanoi welcoming senior Pentagon officials for talks on improving military relations, one might assume the Khai visit's simple message would be the budding rapprochement between two old enemies. Li Thi Hong Lien symbolizes why it isn't so simple, and shouldn't be.

For Americans, Vietnam is not just another country. It's where we fought for a decade to defend an independent South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos against a communist tide running across Indochina. Whatever the wisdom of that war, it left the United States with a moral obligation to our defeated, and abandoned, allies. Honor alone compels Washington to keep human rights on the agenda even as U.S.-Vietnam relations improve.

Lamentably, there is no shortage of material for the human rights portion of that agenda.

The U.S. State Department's official 2004 report on Vietnam's violations of human rights runs 22 single-spaced pages. Washington's detailed reporting on Hanoi's repression is broadly confirmed by independent groups such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. Human Rights Watch's 2005 World Report section on Vietnam begins with this blunt summary:

"Human rights conditions in Vietnam, already dismal, worsened in 2004. The government tolerates little public criticism of the Communist Party or statements calling for pluralism, democracy, or a free press. Dissidents are harassed, isolated, placed under house arrest, and in many cases, charged with crimes and imprisoned. Among those singled out are prominent intellectuals, writers, and former Communist Party stalwarts."

Vietnam's suppression of religious freedom, a fundamental right enshrined in the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is particularly repugnant. Despite a constitution that ostensibly provides for freedom of worship, the Vietnamese government vigorously suppresses churches and religious movements it doesn't recognize and control. Among these, as cited by the State Department, are: "independent Buddhists, Baptists, Mennonites, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Baha'i, independent Cao Dai and Hoa Hao groups, independent Sunni Muslims, and ethnic Cham Hindus."

Hundreds of local Protestant churches, Ms. Lien's Mennonite congregation included, have been driven underground where the faithful gather in secret to worship.

Hanoi's repression of Christianity among the ethnic Montagnards, who inhabit the Central Highlands of former South Vietnam and the northwest provinces in northern Vietnam, has been especially cruel and brutal.

Montagnard refugees fleeing into Cambodia last year reported that entire Montagnard villages were forced at gunpoint to renounce Christianity. When the Montagnards – independent-minded mountain people who sided with the Americans during the Vietnam War – staged mass protests in April 2004, Vietnamese police and soldiers opened fire, killing scores and wounding hundreds more.

If President Bush and Secretary of State Rice are looking for symbolic cases to raise with Prime Minister Khai, they should include these cited by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience:

Nguyen Hong Quang, a Mennonite pastor and human rights activist, arrested last November and sentenced to three years imprisonment.

Father Nguyen Van Ly, a Catholic priest, sentenced in 2001 as an alleged threat to Vietnam's security to 15 years in prison; a sentence since reduced to five years after international protests.

Dr. Nguyen Dan Que, 62 and in failing health, a human rights activist sentenced in 2003 to 30 months in prison after a three-hour trial at which he had no legal representation.

Could pressure from the United States ease political and religious repression in Vietnam? Absolutely.

Hanoi is eagerly seeking foreign investment for its version of a China-style "socialist-market" economy. It also appears to want improved relations with the United States as a counterweight to China's growing military power. Vietnam's prospects for getting both would be enhanced by treating its own people better, thereby becoming less of a human rights pariah.

No one imagines that Hanoi can be induced to give up its one-party dictatorship anytime soon. That will require a longer-term evolutionary process inside Vietnam. In the meantime, however, selective American pressure can make an important difference.

Others are helping. Japan, Vietnam's largest aid donor, announced last year that henceforth its development assistance would be linked, in part, to Hanoi's respect for human rights and steps toward democracy. Sweden, long a source of economic assistance to Hanoi, recently granted political asylum to a dissident Buddhist monk imprisoned by Vietnam.

The postscript to Li Thi Hong Lien's ordeal is a single measure of how desperately this international pressure is needed. Two days after her release from prison on April 28, Lien was rearrested and roughly interrogated for hours. Her offense? Attending a Bible study at the home of her imprisoned pastor, Nguyen Hong Quang.

Add that to Bush's talking points for his meeting with Mr. Khai on June 21.

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Caldwell is editor of the Insight section and can be reached via e-mail at robert.caldwell@uniontrib.com.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: caldwell; christianpersecution; christians; communism; humanrights; khai; montagnards; persecution; phanvankhai; vietnam; vietnamvisit

1 posted on 06/12/2005 7:30:10 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET
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To: USMCVIETVET

correct link: http://signonsandiego.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=Message+to+Hanoi%3A+Human+rights+matter+%7C+The+San+Diego+Union-Tribune&expire=&urlID=14524997&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.signonsandiego.com%2Funiontrib%2F20050612%2Fnews_lz1e12hanoi.html&partnerID=616


2 posted on 06/12/2005 7:33:18 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...
Brutal human rights abuses continue in communist Vietnam.

Please ask President Bush to use his June 21 meeting with Prime Minister Khai to use America's trade leverage to press for reforms.

3 posted on 06/13/2005 9:50:32 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

Exactly why I quit buying Ford Motor vehicles since Ford opened a plant there. In fact Ford started flying the Vietnamese Communist flag at corporate headquarters in Michigan after they opened the plant in Nam...

And until the Commies in Nam account for ALL the American POW & MIA's I will not buy another Ford!


4 posted on 06/13/2005 9:53:54 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Interesting Times


5 posted on 06/13/2005 10:02:35 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: USMCVIETVET

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Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christians in Central Highlands

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/675016/posts

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6 posted on 06/13/2005 10:24:31 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Interesting Times

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Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp
(Vietnam Human Rights Bill)

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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7 posted on 06/13/2005 10:30:30 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: E.G.C.


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LOVE is coming to Vietnam..!!!



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965

http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

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8 posted on 06/13/2005 10:33:37 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Interesting Times

Excellent article. Thanks for the ping. I absolutely agree that President Bush should apply pressure for a decent degree of human rights in Vietnam during his June 21st meeting.


9 posted on 06/13/2005 7:52:01 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 06/13/2005 8:29:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Interesting Times

good read. thanks.


11 posted on 06/13/2005 9:13:51 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: USMCVIETVET


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..GARDEN GROVE snub irks HANOI..

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1135666/posts

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12 posted on 06/13/2005 9:41:13 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: zot

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Last Tuesday the Orange County CA Board of Supervisors officially proclaimed, on at 5-0 vote, the Freedom and Heritage Flag of Vietnam as the Official Flag for the county's Vietnamese American Community to fly at their community events held on county land.

That makes over 85 counties, cities and states that have done so in the little over 2 years when the cities of Westminster CA and Garden Grove CA (Little Saigon) first led the way.

California Assemblyman VAN TRAN, our 1st Vietnamese-American State Legislator, has had his co-sponsored SCR17 Freedom and Heritage Flag Bill pass out of a State Senate Committee on a 5-0 vote, and then out of the Senate altogether by a 22-0 vote.

Next stop, California State Assembly Committee and Floor votes and then off to a Gov. ARNOLD Signature.

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13 posted on 06/13/2005 9:59:19 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Interesting Times
I'm so thrilled that we have had in excess of 6,000+ posts on various Michael Jackson related threads and 14 on this issue. Premier conservative website on the web. Yup. Yessir. You bet. / sarcasm

Regards,

TS

14 posted on 06/14/2005 12:45:08 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: The Shrew
I'm so thrilled that we have had in excess of 6,000+ posts on various Michael Jackson related threads and 14 on this issue.

Including five posts by Aloha Ronnie, one link correction by the original poster, a group ping, a couple of "thanks for the ping" posts, and one expression of sarcasm...

Trial of freakish pop singer = interesting to freepers
Oppression of minorities by Vietnamese communists = not interesting to freepers

15 posted on 06/14/2005 1:49:27 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

That is good news. Thanks for the ping. I'm glad this is being done to remember and honor our allies.


16 posted on 06/14/2005 5:14:49 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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