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Congress moves to halt onslaught of violent Maras gang (MS-13)
The Monitor ^ | June 12,2005 | Daniel Perry

Posted on 06/12/2005 7:02:51 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

EDCOUCH — The mid-April incident looked like a typical one for the Edcouch Police Department: two men caught and charged with multiple counts of aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon while committing a home invasion.

But something stood out to Police Chief Jose Perez as one of the suspects was being interviewed by his officers. The male suspect, who said he lived in the Elsa area but was really an undocumented Mexican citizen, said in Spanish to watch out for the Mara Salvatrucha-Treces, also known as the Maras or MS-13. The group has ties to Central America but began forming in Los Angeles in the 1980s among immigrants from El Salvador, according to national gang identification and training expert Robert Walker’s Gangs Or Us Web site.

Perez said the suspect was later interviewed by U.S. Border Patrol agents but took back his MS-13 threat.

"Since they are a more violent organization, their members are more apt to do their time than name other people and face the risk of they themselves being kidnapped and killed," he said.

But Perez said if there was one person claiming ties to the Maras, there could be others working in the area.

"I’m certain they are here and certain they are operating with the drug organizations," he said.

Legislation filed last week in Congress by U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., called for denying people seeking entry into the United States paperwork if they were thought to have international gang ties. The bill also gives up to 10 years of prison time to those caught bringing gang members into the country. His bill, which amends a section of the Immigration and Nationality Act, was read twice on the Senate floor and forwarded to the Committee on the Judiciary.

Staff members in Nelson’s Washington, D.C., office did not answer two requests The Monitor made last week seeking comments about the legislation.

But Nelson talked June 6 about the dangers of the Maras on the Senate floor. He said the group was involved in murders, drug trafficking, rape, robbery and other crimes, and was a problem in cities such as Baltimore, New York, Miami and Washington, D.C.

Nelson said there were between 8,000 to 10,000 MS-13 members in America now who might have ties to al-Qaida, the terrorist group led by Osama bin Laden and masterminds of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

"The time to act to stop the spread of this gang is now, before they are able to spread their web of violence to more cities and areas within the United States," Nelson told senators.

The MS-13s garnered attention in February when its Honduran branch leader, Ebner Anibal Rivera-Paz, was stopped and arrested at the Border Patrol’s Falfurrias checkpoint in Brooks County. Rivera-Paz was connected to a bus shooting in Honduras on Dec. 23, 2004, in which 28 women and children were killed.

Roy Cervantes, spokesman for the Border Patrol’s Rio Grande Valley Sector in McAllen, said agents training Honduran law enforcement people in technology received information about Rivera-Paz’s trip to the United States to avoid being arrested for the bus incident. The lead for them to look for was passed to Border Patrol agents in the United States him.

"Most of these gang members will make an illegal entry through the river," Cervantes said. "When he was arrested, he initially provided the name Franklin Jairo Rivera Hernandez, but through IAFIS (Integrated Automated Fingerprint Identification System) records check, even though he was proving an alias, the database clearly identified him as Ebner Rivera-Paz because he had an extensive criminal history in the United States."

Cervantes said 26 MS-13 members have been arrested and later prosecuted and deported throughout the sector during the 2004-2005 fiscal year. He said they were not armed when arrested. Border Patrol agents also had two "encounters" with MS-13 gang members that were identified as having gang ties, Cervantes said.

"The problem is that these hardened gang members don’t fear the police, they don’t fear the court system, but they do fear deportation," he said. "We get their attention with deportation because ultimately that sends them to their country of origin where they might be wanted for a serious crime, whether it is murder or robbery."

Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Treviño said Nelson’s legislation sounded good, but law enforcement agencies would have to work harder to prove people were members of internationally-based gangs. He said some people do not wear the tattoos traditionally linked with membership in the Maras or local groups like the Tri-City Bombers or Mexican Mafia.

"You have to rely on foreign intelligence probably, which may be flawed," the sheriff said. "They say they are going to maximize the sentencing or punishment for the people’s smugglers. Well, that might be a good deal right there because they are creating a heck of a problem. If it helps, great."

Treviño said having more manpower working to gain the trust of residents in neighborhoods was a way to get additional information on illegal activities.

"If we could tap into just 10 percent of community knowledge of what is going on, we would be rocking and rolling," the sheriff said.

Treviño said Maras have not been specifically detected yet in the county. He said the group uses the county as a passage to get to larger cities, like Dallas and Houston.

McAllen Police Chief Victor Rodriguez said the drug trade typically follows the immigration routes for people seeking work in the United States. This is why the city has not had a problem with the Maras.

Rodriguez said creating tougher legislation was typically how Congress dealt with issues such as immigration and gang activities. He said he was not sure if Nelson’s proposed bill would curb these problems or not.

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Daniel Perry covers Edinburg and general assignments for The Monitor. You can reach him at (956) 683-4454.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; aliiens; alqueda; borderwar; bushdoctrin; bushknew; congressknew; connecthedots; druglanes; gangswelcome; homelandsecurity; illegals; immigrantlist; impeachtraitors; maras; ms13; nelson; terrorists
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To: Ramonan

Nelson is worried about the coming election he's desperate for any TV face time.


21 posted on 06/12/2005 8:43:25 AM PDT by Unicorn
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To: SwinneySwitch

I am suprised that our "leadership" has not yet conceived the brilliant idea of giving these people money to help them integrate into "Our Big Tent!"


22 posted on 06/12/2005 8:43:55 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Ramonan

Do you ever get the feeling that you are watching - helplessly - an implosion and there is absolutely NOTHING you can do about it? Sometimes I feel as if I am in a fog.


23 posted on 06/12/2005 9:04:59 AM PDT by ImpotentRage
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To: ImpotentRage

I'm tired of gutless wonder politicians. I was in Law enforcement for 30 years. It became so grating to see: Illegals not prosecuted because they either had no home address or they had not been "properly identified".
District Attorneys are political animals too. They often reduce charges against "minorities" to preserve their voting population.
Charges such as CCW with a criminal record, or a drug charge less than a ton of product get dimissed so that the crook would plead guilty--ad get released.


24 posted on 06/12/2005 9:11:29 AM PDT by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: ImpotentRage
They want you to feel that way. Don't give in. They're powerful, but they're not all-powerful, and they know it.
25 posted on 06/12/2005 9:32:39 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: daybreakcoming
"working to gain the trust"

Translated from "compassionate" neo-con speak, that means... Ignore illegal invaders crimes, and reward them with bi-lingual benefits, citizenship, and a special priveleged minority status.

26 posted on 06/12/2005 9:35:41 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Congress is going to solve the problem

Congress is going to deny paperwork ??? Great ... they're finally getting serious. CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED!

27 posted on 06/12/2005 9:49:52 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: FreePaul
This is the same congress that saved us from drugs and terrorism. I wonder how many more civil liberties we'll loose in order to control MS-13. Do we have any left?

NO.

28 posted on 06/12/2005 10:00:48 AM PDT by TLI (. ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA,. .Minuteman Project, Day -1 to Day 8)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"Nelson said there were between 8,000 to 10,000 MS-13 members in America now who might have ties to al-Qaida, the terrorist group led by Osama bin Laden and masterminds of the 9/11 terrorist attacks."

M-13's are already in East Boston, Massachusetts, home of Logan Airport...the same airport from which Atta and his gang departed on September 11. How much you want to bet that some of these M-13's have jobs there?

29 posted on 06/12/2005 10:10:59 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: FreePaul

Congress should be very wary of these people. MS-13 will probably take out a US Senator, or one of the Senator's relatives. They won't need compromise, consensus, or bi-patisanship to do it, either.


30 posted on 06/12/2005 10:20:26 AM PDT by Crawdad (I know we've only known each other 4 weeks and 3 days, but to me it seems like 9 weeks and 5 days)
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To: FreePaul

Do we have any left?
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Not that I know of.



31 posted on 06/12/2005 10:24:17 AM PDT by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Until the PC crowd is removed from office, the "War on Drugs" will never work. Some American laws create recidivism i.e.; short jail sentences; plush jails; rights & lawyers for illegal aliens; look-the-other-way when jails are too full etc; gang members know the prison system is mostly a slap on the wrist and foreign gang members have studied the American Rule of Law and like the al Qeada, know how to use it!

Rather, make all jails hard time jails with no TV’s, computers, weight lifting equipment, an exercise that should be practiced at the handle end of a pick axe; inmates pay for their meals and lodging while incarcerated there-by lessening the load on the taxpayer. Granted, not all the convicted can be handled in such a manner, but for those that fall under the “normal” criminal, remove all comforts and put them to work, hard work. You will see recidivist criminals/gang members drop to near 0.

Calling Sheriff Joe Arpaio…………….

32 posted on 06/12/2005 10:42:20 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Ramonan

Perhaps I should have added a less than PC comment; sense all Drug Dealers deal in a deadly, illegal commerce – all Dealers have two choices; if they are illegal, brand them with another tattoo and send them back to what ever country they came from, forbidding them with the penalty of death, from ever entering the United States again. The American citizen Drug Dealer simply gets the death sentence, just like the one he prescribes with his illicit product! Burn the Poppy fields where ever possible, we did it to the tobacco farmers here, why not demand the Poppy be outlawed like the Marijuana Plant. Our lawmakers are just plain stupid and governed by Political Correctness, except when trying to collect taxes for black market cigarettes.


33 posted on 06/12/2005 10:59:25 AM PDT by yoe
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To: SwinneySwitch
These animals are not afraid of the police, they get their bones from killing a cop. make an enemy of them and they kill your whole family. They use a machete because no reasonable human being can comprehend the savagery of hacking a person to death.

They are not afraid of prison. The prisons in central America are battlefields between gangs. They take over the prisons. Putting them in American prisons is a joke.

Someone else posted here about creating another GD law when we already have thousands on the books not being enforced. Deport them, for what? they will be back.

There is one way to deal with this scum. The only thing they understand and respect is violence, kill them, hunt them down and root them out. If they move into a neighborhood then the citizens should have the right to protect their families and their homes. We have to get control of the problem.
34 posted on 06/12/2005 11:21:01 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: inquest

I have NO intention of giving in, but there are times that "ballistic" comes to mind.


35 posted on 06/12/2005 12:35:56 PM PDT by ImpotentRage
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To: SwinneySwitch
While your wife and daughters are being felt up and strip searched at the airport, the following gangbanger is free to cross the border, get a job at the airlines and work on the aircraft as he pleases. He may even help terrorists to plant bombs, as he has no love for America.

Your Congress and Presidential Administrations fiddling.


36 posted on 06/12/2005 12:51:36 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Too little too late, to stop what will get a lot worse before drastic measures would be taken. Measures that would include securing the borders and mass deportations.

The #1 job of the US govt should be protecting and defending its citizens, but what we're seeing is only abysmal failure in that, their primary responsibility. Elitists don't have to live like the rest of us, in fear of gangs of criminals.

So I guess, to them, American citizens are expendable.


37 posted on 06/12/2005 12:54:57 PM PDT by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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To: ImpotentRage
Sometimes I feel as if I am in a fog.

On the contrary, the people in a fog are those who don't recognize illegal immigration as a problem and who don't see that we should treat illegal gang immigrants as foreign enemies who must be forced to surrender or killed.

38 posted on 06/12/2005 1:51:53 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I can't take anything Nelson does seriously.

It's all words.


39 posted on 06/12/2005 1:56:18 PM PDT by sauropod (De gustibus non est disputandum)
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40 posted on 06/13/2005 8:08:20 AM PDT by HiJinx (Let's put Blockbuster in charge of immigration - 2 days late and WHAMMO!!!!)
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