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"Jacky Estes, an actress who now lives in Novato, said that during the same year, she was living at the hot springs as one of Free John's "wives."

For about two months, she told The Chronicle, motion-picture cameras were set up in a basement room, and devotees were ordered to make pornographic films. Estes herself did not participate. But, she said, "I heard him telling men and women go downstairs and do it, and I saw the women crying hysterically afterwards."

"Everything that was done was interpreted a lesson about your own lack of spirituality," she said.

Estes also said she saw Free John's wife, Nina, come out of his house with a huge hunk of hair ripped out of her head, and a black eye.

"At the time, I was frightened and confused, and only later did I learn what the brainwashing process entailed," she said. "Twelve to 16 hours of my day were spent surrounded by cult members. You didn't watch TV or read magazines. It closes off your circuits to the rational process. Most members don't know anything about the inner violence of the innermost circle."

.. I was there.. I saw this type of brainwashing occurring under the "platform" of many different sayings: "total honesty movement".. "Be Here Now".. "Inner Voice".. it was awful. It was billed as "trendy" and "consciousness raising". Modern psychology and therapy went to hell in a handbasket real quick in No. CA. Families went to hell, too. CA. Dittos, Education. Big time.

Not to say there wasn't "good things" alongside the bad. I loved the open markets -- rising new boutiques and industries. My parents, kids of the depression, were natural recyclers, so I was glad to see "recycling" -- and making use of what one has or is responsible for -- get more attention. However,

Jimmie Jones and the Temple was already rising in California....

It really was like a nuclear "culture" bomb unleashed upon the San Francisco Bay Area... I have imprints from the blast, even yet... Anger and Tears -- I saw a lot of this. The rise in drug use, political activism (liberal).. The Jesus Freak Movement.. "Coming Out of the Closet Movement"...Natural Fibers... communes.. guitar playing anywhere.. Music Everywhere.. nudity.. communal hot tubbing.. lentil soup.. "Save the Earth"..family therapy.. the horrid abuse and mistreatment of anyone who wasn't "into the scene". The shouting of "MCP!" at any man who dared voice anything but abject surrendered support of the feminist movement... and everything it demanded..

And of all it burst wide open upon the heels of Watergate. the "TOTAL HONESTY MOVEMENT" landed, and seized a culture... an area of the country....

I was travelling a great deal not long after these movements had "seized control", and yes, at times it just wasn't funny anymore when I'd respond to those in other states, that "I was from California".. and hearing the comments about "land of fruits and nuts". How to explain what had happened?

It was as if a whole bunch of locusts had landed and began chewing up the countryside and towns and cities... And March? They did. And rang "bells and smells." And did all kinds of invitations. Sex therapy. Sex toys alongside drug paraphenalia stores. All done in the name of "wholeness" "centeredness" "back to nature".

And bosses, who were into these movements, had ways of "punishing you" employment-wise, if you didn't attend one of their little "off-hours invitations to their "new groups of belonging".

Newer forms of "communications" training became part of OJT -- employing and adapting many of the new "isms" into their workplace. As a means of either staving off "discriminatory lawsuits" or the bosses themselves were involved with these new movements and, again, had ways of "punishing" those who didn't follow "private orders".

If you were into largesse of government, then you'd side with the movement. If you wanted to keep your job, you had to play along. Speak up? At first, it was just heavy "condemnation" you got. Then came the "sensitivity" one-on-one sessions with "departments" which used to be called "Personnel" in most companies but what "evolved" into "Human Resources" departments. "Counseling" statements could be mocked up and used against you in re employment.

Judge Rose Byrd. The Chicago Five murdering a Judge. Angela Davis. Black Panther Movement.

Meanwhile, Hollywood kept playing up "Coming To a Town Near You!" in support of this type of culture takeover. And I watched it spread to other statesIn No CA -- UNIONS (first it was the "peoples workers union".. which grew to "non-marriage "unions" ("I, any certified (insert name), now pronounce you two seperate persons under the Cosmos." Then to communal "units of unity under the cosmos". Meaning, open marriages, multiple partners, "agism" need not be a factor.. children, teens, elderly -- all invited to "partake" of the "cosmos unit". I stop there.

Then "gay unions". "Dog and Partner Unions".

But then, most all of you in this forum have seen what "UNIONS" (all forms, Educational Educations, Pension Unions) have done in your states. Real good, huh?

You've already seen what Teachers Unions ... "do".

President Nixon had opened the very first talks, ever, with China. But it didn't matter. All of the above landed ("went down") within a relatively few, but very well organized few short years on the heels of Watergate. I had seen the "land and area" prepared. I saw it land. I saw the fall-out.

Deep Throat and his daughter living in N.CA? Oh my, what a surprise.....