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1 posted on 06/11/2005 6:50:44 PM PDT by Charles Wickman
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Hmmm...aside from the Scientology stuff, krb "totally digs" Katie Holmes.


2 posted on 06/11/2005 6:51:59 PM PDT by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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"Yes, absolutely. She digs it," the 42-year-old actor tells the magazine.

What exactly is she supposed to say? It's like when your new Mother-in-Law introduces you to her favorite 'BBQ Liver Sandwich', ..... shut up, eat it, and tell her it's delicious. You can puke later.

3 posted on 06/11/2005 6:53:35 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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Tom Cruise decided that if he couldn't father a child he would do the next best thing and marry one.


4 posted on 06/11/2005 6:54:02 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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Now if I'm remembering correctly, Scientologists believe we're all actually ancient immaterial alien beings. So why is our devout Scientological Mr. Cruise making a movie in which New Jersey gets trashed by immaterial alien beings?

Maybe he's stupid.


5 posted on 06/11/2005 6:56:12 PM PDT by Trimegistus
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I must be getting old -- for a second I thought the story was referring to this Holmes:


6 posted on 06/11/2005 6:56:50 PM PDT by TFFKAMM
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Nutcase, vacuous Hollywood actors with all the depth of a small puddle.


8 posted on 06/11/2005 6:59:39 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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When asked by the interviewer if he's going to propose to Holmes, Cruise whispered, "It's gonna happen, man. It'll happen."

What's gonna happen is Cruise is gonna wrest the title of "Weirdest Celebrity With Questionable Sexual Orientation" from Michael Jackson if Jackson goes to jail or otherwise drops out of sight.

This sounds exactly like one of those gay movie stars of the 50's and his beard. I could be wrong, but if Cruise IS a pillow biter, I hope Holmes doesn't have an "arrangement" with him just so she can have a career boost.

9 posted on 06/11/2005 6:59:48 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dems, the annoying vegetarians of politics)
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It's rather sad to watch Cruise's decline. I used to really like him - he was so handsome and I really enjoyed his performances in Top Gun, A Few Good Men, and Interview with the Vampire. Now he's aging badly, his acting is becoming more hammy, and he's starting to show signs of serious mental inbalance in public. It's a shame. I hope someone knocks enough sense into Katie Holmes before she gets even more serious with Cruise and his space alien cult.


10 posted on 06/11/2005 7:00:06 PM PDT by sassbox
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Does Katie sleep in his hyperbaric chamber, or do they have His and Hers?

And when does Cruise announce he's getting a chimp, and opening a Neverland-like carnival in his back yard, called "Hubbardland"?

11 posted on 06/11/2005 7:02:10 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dems, the annoying vegetarians of politics)
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Worth reading:

Readers Digest - Scientology: Anatomy of a Frightening Cult

13 posted on 06/11/2005 7:04:15 PM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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She digs it," the 42-year-old actor tells the magazine.

i guess she's not such a devout Catholic after all...

14 posted on 06/11/2005 7:06:19 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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"Cruise Says Holmes 'Digs' Scientology" You are now entering the Twilight Zone
18 posted on 06/11/2005 7:10:18 PM PDT by Betaille
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Lisa McPherson

1959-1995

Lisa died needlessly at the hands of Scientology.  Hubbard Tech produced the death of a young vibrant woman.

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On December 5, 1995, Lisa McPherson was dead on arrival at a hospital 45 minutes north of Clearwater Florida. According to the coroner's report, Lisa was underweight, severely dehydrated, and had bruises and bug bites (see the entire report here).

Lisa's last address was listed by the police as 210 S. Ft. Harrison in Clearwater Florida, which is the Fort Harrison Hotel, a Scientology property. Lisa had been a Scientologist from the age of 18 to her death at age 36.

Lisa was put on the Introspection Rundown that Scientology uses to handle those who have had a psychotic break.

On November 18, 1995, Lisa was involved in a minor car accident. She was apparently not hurt, but she got out of her car and took all her clothes off and seemed mentally unstable. She was taken to a hospital where she was physically evaluated as being unharmed, but the hospital wanted her to be psychologically cared for. However, some Scientologists arrived and stated that Lisa did not believe in psychiatry, and she checked out after a short evaluation and left with the Scientologists. She went with them to the Ft. Harrison Hotel for "rest and relaxation" according to the church, but church logs from Lisa's stay there  from November 18 to her death December 5 show differently. Some logs are missing, and a high ranking ex-Scientologist has written an affidavit in which he claims that the church has in the past destroyed documents that might get the church in trouble.

The family of Lisa McPherson sued Scientology and individuals involved for wrongful death, while Scientology claimed it did nothing wrong toward Lisa (Civil Case settled 5/28/04). Scientology had a web page (removed or moved) that smeared Lisa's aunt and attorney.

On November 13, 1998, Scientology was indicted on 2 felony charges in Lisa's death.  On December 6, 1999, prosecutor Bernie McCabe presented a response to Scientology's attempt to get the case dismissed (note: 250k).

   On June 12, 2000 the criminal charges were dropped against Scientology because (so the prosecutor claims) the medical examiner could not be counted on to confidently testify, even though the criminal charges were abuse of a disabled person and practicing medicine without a license.  You can read much of the Clearwater police department's evidence and Scientology's  logs of Lisa's stay, view some of the autopsy photos, and decide for yourself. Then ask why Scientology now makes members sign a waiver specifically against suing Scientology over the Introspection Rundown:

Lisa clause or Lisa McPherson clause: an adhesion clause to insulate one party from all damages, including personal injury or death, from known and unknown conduct of commission or omission of the party so released. An "adhesion clause" is a recognized legal term which means "take it or leave it", i.e., that the party signing the agreement has no bargaining power and therefore no alternative but to include the clause in the agreement.

Scientologist OT 8 Dr. David I. Minkoff had his license suspended on August 3, 2001 for one year and was fined for prescribing medicine to Lisa without even seeing her at the request of Lisa's "caretakers."

   Scientology conducted a survey in the Clearwater area that shows 4 out of 5 residents have a negative opinion of Scientology. They tried to use this for a time as a reason for a change of venue, then withdrew the request. Why do Scientology web sites claim that Scientology and Clearwater have good relations?

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Here is the link from where this came from.

Scientology is as much a religion as Radical islam is about being TROP.

23 posted on 06/11/2005 7:27:12 PM PDT by Issaquahking (U.N. or American? yes I'm a hyphenated American, an American-AMERICAN!)
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WARNING: Rant Alert.
The Hollywierd people are worse than dogs the way the jump from one to another. There is probably more inbreeding in Hollywood than any could imagine. Maybe their religion makes them wealthy, but it apparently says nothing about faithfulness. Oh how I remember the tabloids and Dianne Sawyers of the media fawning on and on about the great love between Cruise and Kidman. "It's gonna happen man" and it will last about 2 years when someone else comes along. Dogs, nearly the whole lot of them are dogs.


25 posted on 06/11/2005 7:34:29 PM PDT by discipler
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Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman really digged the cult too.

Except they are both smarter than Mr. Cruise, and are leading normal lives nowadays.


28 posted on 06/11/2005 7:40:39 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Intelligent design is neither.)
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I am constantly amazed by the intelligent people taken in by Scientology.
L.Ron Hubbard was a third or fourth rate sci-fi writer and by his own admissions founded Scientology because that was where the "Money" was. That is all he wanted and he created a scam to get it.
Yet you have these high profile actors and others that would seem to have some intelligence and they jump whole into this thing and gladly hand over vast sums of money without so much as asking where it is going.
29 posted on 06/11/2005 7:42:49 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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This is without a doubt the most annoying public couple I can remember. I read one report about them "sucking face" in a restaurant with horrified restaurant-goers looking on. And the constant trying to convince us that they are the most in-love couple in world history. I wish a meteorite would land on both of them.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0505/borowitz052705.php3


32 posted on 06/11/2005 7:56:08 PM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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A match made in Scientology is not the same as a match made in heaver. I'll give the little creep 6 months to a year before she gets tired of him and moves along.


33 posted on 06/11/2005 7:57:44 PM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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Cruise says the 26-year-old "Batman Begins" actress is curious about Scientology, founded by L. Ron Hubbard.

So she's obviously dumb enough for that dimbulb Cruise. Maybe dumb enough to be a Moslem though, Tommy - better keep an eye on her!

39 posted on 06/11/2005 8:21:21 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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Wait until Tom Cruise moves on to his new "conquest" and Katie Holmes tries to move away form it. Will the media report on how she "digs it" then?


40 posted on 06/11/2005 8:38:22 PM PDT by onedoug
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