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Americans steadfast in anger at Americans
The Sun News (Myrtle Beach) ^ | Sat, Jun. 11, 2005 | ART BUCHWALD

Posted on 06/11/2005 5:20:34 PM PDT by rface

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To: marty60

Ok. Just checking. Never know when someone might be looking for a duel to the death. Take care.


61 posted on 06/11/2005 7:19:58 PM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: rface

Liberals hate American because they are socialists and socialists hate capitalism. A second reason is that socialism is a religion placing government and man as the focus to worship in contrast to religions like Christanity that put God above man, along with self-responsibility.


62 posted on 06/11/2005 7:27:32 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: rface

I've known since 1970 that I was a lunatic, drug addicted, baby killing, fascist pig for serving in Vietnam based on the enlightened reporting of our time. Now customized negative images are being successfully applied to Christians, gun owners, traditional values advocates, etc. by those who build their verbal and written assaults into thoroughly justified and inescapeable positions of hate. These folks are just trying to wake listeners up to the fact they are hated, which I could have told them all along (but not as well) was the result of different political and ethical opinions. One of the few intelligent things Mao Tse-Tung ever said was, "Politics is war without bloodshed". Welcome to the world of virtual blood. Just keep faith with those values the liberals hate as you establish your rules of engagement.


63 posted on 06/11/2005 7:35:25 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: rface

If Art Buchwald were alive today, he'd be outraged at this.


64 posted on 06/11/2005 7:58:31 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: prion
don't all Jesus' children say you're going to hell if you don't believe?

No, Jesus' children say you're going to hell if you don't BEHAVE!

65 posted on 06/11/2005 8:12:17 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: technomage
Today I heard his name pronounced HOWEIRD DEAN

Very fitting!
66 posted on 06/11/2005 8:17:15 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: jwalsh07

Good grief -- that can't be true.

Who would publish such nonsense?


67 posted on 06/11/2005 8:27:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: rface
First off, let me say that Art Buchwald is a talentless hack and I've never understood how he could ever get a job writing for a living. That said, I'd like to point out something that is very obvios... Liberals lie. They do it all the time, and they accuse everyone else of it as well. As we saw with Michael Moore in his interview with Bill Oreilly, Moore makes no distinction between being wrong and lying (something that most second graders are capable of). This may be on purpose. Since liberals refuse to hold anyone accountable for their actions, then nobody should be held accountable for being wrong. Since lying is the same as being wrong, then lying is OK!!!

And example of a lie perpetuated by liberals is this one...

Milton continued, "Commentators like Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh told Americans to hate the liberals. It was a sure-fire way of getting ratings."

"I hate O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh," I said, "because they hate me."

First off, I would like documented evidence that either Rush or BO EVER told Americans to hate the liberals. Secondly, I'd be willing to bet that there is no documented evidence that either one of them has ever stated publicly that they hate liberals, as opposed to that mainstay of tolerance, Dr. Howard Dean, who said, "I hate Republicans and everything they stand for." Interestingly enough, he didn't qualify it (although he tried to later, saying he only meant the republican leadership).

Buchwald lies, saying that Rush and BO hate liberals. Dean says he hates republicans. Assuming that he means what he says, that would include all republicans, conservative and liberal alike... So, he would hate Bill Frist, and Lincoln Chaffee. He would hate Pat Robers and Olympia Snow. Ideology doesn't really matter to Dean. He sees anyone who's not with him as his personal enemy. And he projects, as do most leftists. All those things that he and his party do, he accuses other of doing against him. I suppose that's how he can justiry doing and saying the sort of things he does.

More importantly, he uses the word "hate" as a bludgeon. He says that he hates those who disagree with him (interestingly enough, that IS the leftist definition of "hate." "You disagree with me, so you must hate... I'm only concerned with doing good. You oppose me, so you must hate. I'm doing good things, or at least, meaning to be doing good things. You oppose some of those things. That means you're bad. And evil. Except evil doesn't really exist... Except in people who oppose the good that I'm trying to do."

Mark

68 posted on 06/11/2005 8:32:22 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: MarkL
The leftist definition of 'hate'. "You disagree with me, so you must hate."

Exactly. Great post -- you nailed what needs to be said: Buchwald is engaging in crass propaganda.

69 posted on 06/11/2005 8:37:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: CyberAnt
In other words, this idiot wants me to believe that WE STARTED THE HATE STUFF. It wasn't us. It really started with the 2000 election - and it was the LEFT WHO STARTED CALLING US NAMES. It had nothing whatsoever to do with O'Reilly or Limbaugh.

Oh, it goes way farther back then the 2000 elections... Remember Hillary's "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy." Or even better, Bill Clinton trying to claim that Rush and other conservative radio talk show hosts (but Rush WAS singled out, by name) were responsible for a climate of hatred that culminated in the OKC bombing. That's certainly one of the more agregious examples, but there are many, many others.

Mark

70 posted on 06/11/2005 8:55:23 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: MarkL

Well .. I guess I wasn't really paying attention until after I got on the internet and started visiting FR on a regular basis. The election in 2000 was a big turning point for me in activism.

I do remember the OKC incident of accusing Rush though, because I was listening to his program when I found out about FR.


71 posted on 06/11/2005 10:34:32 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: wizr
Can tell you haven't been to church lately. The fire and brimstone guilt trip, that I grew up with doesn't float any more.

Errrr...so you've decided there are parts of the Bible you don't believe any more? Or you've decided you believe them but it's bad PR to talk about them?

72 posted on 06/12/2005 4:16:03 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: JoeFromSidney
No, Jesus' children say you're going to hell if you don't BEHAVE!

Nooooo...these are very old brain cells, but I remember it says very specifically that one is saved by faith, not good works.

73 posted on 06/12/2005 4:18:52 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: CyberAnt
Well .. I guess I wasn't really paying attention until after I got on the internet and started visiting FR on a regular basis. The election in 2000 was a big turning point for me in activism.

Sorry, I didn't mean to chide you. The 2000 election was a big turning point for many people, and it was one of the events that's been used to ratchet up misinformation and hatred by the dems.

Mark

74 posted on 06/12/2005 5:25:28 AM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: rface

Buchwald has gone off the deep end...

Again.


75 posted on 06/12/2005 5:27:52 AM PDT by sauropod (De gustibus non est disputandum)
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To: MarkL
He sees anyone who's not with him as his personal enemy. And he projects, as do most leftists. All those things that he and his party do, he accuses other of doing against him. I suppose that's how He sees anyone who's not with him as his personal enemy. And he projects, as do most leftists. All those things that he and his party do, he accuses other of doing against him. I suppose that's how he can justiry doing and saying the sort of things he does.

More importantly, he uses the word "hate" as a bludgeon. He says that he hates those who disagree with him (interestingly enough, that IS the leftist definition of "hate." "You disagree with me, so you must hate... I'm only concerned with doing good. You oppose me, so you must hate. I'm doing good things, or at least, meaning to be doing good things. You oppose some of those things. That means you're bad. And evil. Except evil doesn't really exist... Except in people who oppose the good that I'm trying to do."

Its all tied in to his projection. He hates his enemies, and his enemies are anybody who doesn't agree with him. And he assumes that his enemies hate him for the same reason. That is where they get it wrong, and they do it time after time. Rush loves liberals, they move to the top of his caller list. If they would just debate on the facts they could call in all day and that's all his show would be. But alas, they fall into tried and true routines, Rush is a Druggie, Bush is stupid, Christians are stupid, all Republicans want to do is kill "people of color". Name calling, slogans, then their own hate shines trough. Rush ends up having just about enough of them and hangs up. Its so very few that even seem to think beyond a DNC talking point memo, its almost fruitless to try to debate them.

76 posted on 06/12/2005 6:12:06 AM PDT by machman
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To: prion

Let's see now. You are an atheist, but you can quote the Bible. OK, let's go. Of course, this may take a while, what with me going to church 'n all. But, it will give you more time to prepare.

First, let me try to explain MY God and my Bible. At first there was the Old Testament, given to help people survive. It spoke of turmoil and what was necessary to overcome and prosper. Take a look at Jeremiah, Chapter 50 and remember that, what once was Babylon, is now Iraq.

It also spoke of the future, and what was necessary to be a part of that future. It prophesied the coming of our Saviour.

The New Testament tells the story of Jesus, the Lamb of God. Do you understand what that means? Jesus was our sacrifice. Jesus died so that anyone, ANYONE, that accepted him into their heart, was saved. Start with Acts, Chapter 9.

But, my favorite verse is John 3:16. It slapped me across the face a few years ago, and I'll carry it with me always. Got to go now. See you later.


77 posted on 06/12/2005 7:11:09 AM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: wizr
Let's see now. You are an atheist, but you can quote the Bible.

Well, yes, I wasn't raised an atheist. I became one via conversations like this.

The New Testament tells the story of Jesus, the Lamb of God. Do you understand what that means? Jesus was our sacrifice. Jesus died so that anyone, ANYONE, that accepted him into their heart, was saved.

Yes, exactly. And anyone who doesn't take him up on the offer goes to hell. That's what I said, isn't it? Really, either you accept the entirety of the message, or you're picking and choosing. And once you decide some of the message may not literally be true, what reason do you have to believe a word of it?

78 posted on 06/12/2005 7:36:16 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: prion

Show me!


79 posted on 06/12/2005 12:15:53 PM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: wizr

Eh? Show you what?


80 posted on 06/12/2005 12:22:47 PM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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