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Natalee's body found... (false report)

Posted on 06/11/2005 11:05:50 AM PDT by kcvl

Per Fox News...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; joranvandersloot; kalpoebrothers; natalee; nataleeholloway; pantiesphoto; threerichpunksdidit
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To: Chode

Some of us who were/are 'good girls', most would say 'smart', and led well protective lives at home did some really stupid things when we were 18. My girlfriend from high school and I have discussed a couple of times something we did in which we think/feel something bad probably would have happened (to make a long story short - -we got in a car w 2 guys in Denver that we didn't know and luckily there were a couple of other guys at the place they took us). Unfortunately, when a person is in their teens/early twenties, they think they're infallible, are too trusting, are too naive, and/or nothing bad will happen to *me*. There but for the grace of God.....


421 posted on 06/11/2005 2:02:28 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Lessismore

I was thinking the same thing.


422 posted on 06/11/2005 2:03:33 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: spectre

In her judgment--there's the problem. Really, really bad judgement. It was in the wee hours of the morning, they were guys she barely knew, she was in an unfamiliar country--and when it came to getting into the car, simple math should have told her that in a pinch, she was outnumbered.

We all pay for what we do, for good or ill, and darn, I hope a lot of youngsters are taking note of what happened in Aruba. Even a guy getting into a car with three strange men could have been robbed and killed. It's just d-u-m-b to do things like that--also known as "bad judgment."


424 posted on 06/11/2005 2:06:38 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious
Well, duh I think we all agree it made it easier for her murderer(s) that she got into their car - whether she was assisted by date rape drug or just plain drunkenness.

At any rate perhaps you did not notice the post I was responding to which wholly blamed her - no mention of the actual killer(s). The lack of compassion for a girl who apparently "had it all" from some here is mind-boggling. Maybe the "had it all" is the basis for it.

425 posted on 06/11/2005 2:06:47 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Seattle Conservative

It all worked out for you but there was at least one factor that this girl didn't have...

You had a girlfriend there by your side..A friend your trusted...Not just guys you just met...

I'm guessing neither of you would have gotten in the car by yourself and watched the other leave without you..

I'd consider you lucky to have a friend like that.. Natalee needed one that night..


426 posted on 06/11/2005 2:07:20 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Chuck54
The real reason she is dead is because someone chose to kill her and apparently this person did not value life.

that's right... tooo many of them... that's why you don't get into a car with STRANGERS!!!

427 posted on 06/11/2005 2:07:30 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Seattle Conservative
been there, done that.....my girlfriend wanted to go visit her boyfriend two states away, during winter, and we hitched the whole way, mostly at night....we accepted a ride from a car full of boys and it turns out the driver was drunk and he swerved all over the road......and ended up in the gutter ( literally,not figuratively)

we insisted on getting out of the car, and boys let us out and were very apologetic about what happened.....

so why are we here on this earth now, when we should have been dead, injured, raped????

by the grace of God, and maybe, just maybe, young men were better back then.....

428 posted on 06/11/2005 2:09:20 PM PDT by cherry
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To: No Blue States

Good on you. I really hope she listens and remember.
My mom used to tell me to cover up my drink w my cocktail napkin when I got up to dance (she had read/heard stories about guys slipping drugs into women's drinks when they weren't looking). I used to say "Oh, Mom"
(actually, I used to think that and say O.K.). In looking back, maybe Mom once again knew and understood a whole lot more than I thought.


429 posted on 06/11/2005 2:10:18 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Hand em their arse

No problem. Hopefully the Dutch police are assembling all of the facts. It is best if they are not leaking too much to the press until their investigation is complete. Meanwhile, things may not be as they appear through the cloudy lens of the mainstream media.


430 posted on 06/11/2005 2:10:28 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: MizSterious; MikeinIraq

Geraldo said something interesting.

The "spokespeople" for the Aruban government aren't govt. employees. They were recruited just to help out on this case. One's a real estate agent, another came from America.

Part of the confusion is these "spokespeople" are not professional.


431 posted on 06/11/2005 2:11:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: JohnD9207

You've obviously heard more than I, because I've only heard that blood was found in the car not how much. Was there a lot????


432 posted on 06/11/2005 2:12:32 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Jack Black
Moral of story: don't get drunk off you ass in a foreign country and agree to go someplace with four young local men in a car and start making out with one of them in the backseat if you are a beautiful young blond American. Just because your on vacation doesn't mean that no rules of common sense apply.

Moral of story: Don't take the word or repeat what the alleged criminals have said about Natalee. There is much more to this story.

You might want to check out this information
433 posted on 06/11/2005 2:12:34 PM PDT by demkicker (It's clear that Frist cannot heard those Senate cats!)
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To: daybreakcoming
you answer your own question
There are predators out there just waiting/stalking for a stupid event.

that's why you don't get in cars with STRANGERS!!! what's so hard to figure out???

i raised 1 boy and three girls and taught all of them to NEVER get in a car with strangers...

434 posted on 06/11/2005 2:13:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
Yeah, I know. I'm sounding like a travel agent or something but I felt as safe if not safer in Aruba than I do in the town of 4,000 I currently live in.

I certainly felt safer in Aruba than I do in the big city. There are murders here all the time. Kids, adults, and teenagers. Rape, drugs, clubs, and liquor are also here in the big city.

Those that think that some teenagers do not do the same (i.e. drink, have sex, rape, murder) in any US big city or small town for that matter, are in big denial.

To blame Aruba is ridiculous!

435 posted on 06/11/2005 2:13:20 PM PDT by Alexis the Bengal Kitty
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To: Conservatrix

17-year-old girls tend to be very trusting and naive.

Don't fault them for that.


436 posted on 06/11/2005 2:13:30 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron ( The comments of this poster are meant for self-amusement only! Read at your own risk! :-))
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To: daybreakcoming
"lack of compassion".....

that says it all......here we have this flaky teenager who is so fly-by-night that she had all her stuff packed and ready to go home in the morning, an is just so flaky that she managed to pull our a 4.0 and a premed scholarship as a HS graduate.....

I bet the local Hooters girls get more sympathy from this crowd....

437 posted on 06/11/2005 2:14:10 PM PDT by cherry
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To: El Gran Salseron

No, I fault their parents for that...


438 posted on 06/11/2005 2:14:13 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Natalee bears no blame for what happened to her. Nor do her parents


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Isn't it strange how few people see it this way. I equate her fatal evening to the sad outcomes that can and do happen year in and year out among kids her age -


439 posted on 06/11/2005 2:14:16 PM PDT by maica
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To: daybreakcoming

Well, here's a big "duhhh" back at you. Most of us have already offered up our prayers for her and her family--and will probably continue to do so. However, we're pointing out that here is a case where common sense might have saved a life. She chose not to exercise it, preferring instead a night of "making out" with a stranger--with his two friends in the car, no less.

She paid a terrible price for her lack of judgment--but if people learn from it, perhaps others can avoid what happened to her.


440 posted on 06/11/2005 2:14:53 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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