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Mexico: U.S. shares responsibility for border violence
CNN ^ | 6/10/2005

Posted on 06/10/2005 4:56:39 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico (AP) - Mourners honored Friday a border police chief gunned down just hours after taking over the post, while President Vicente Fox's spokesman said the United States shares some responsibility for the problem of border violence.

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Speaking to reporters in Mexico City, presedential spokesman Ruben Aguilar said the federal government "recognizes the violence in the northern region. It can't be ignored."

This is a problem in which the United States also shares responsibility, and that can be solved only through the mutual action of both countries," aguilar said.

Aguilar conceded that there had been "a breakdown of society in some parts of the country", but that the federal government would be willing to work together with the United States to address the problem.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aguilar; aliens; blameamerica; georgebushsfault; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; mexico; nuevolaredo; vicentefox; wod
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

until el presidente fox won the election for the pan party in 2000, the pri party was the longest revolutionary party in control of a country--exceeding even the bolsheviks of the soviet union.


21 posted on 06/10/2005 5:09:49 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: monkeywrench

Those pursuits would likely be less profitable, and hence less worth shooting people over.


22 posted on 06/10/2005 5:10:06 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: thoughtomator
The US shares the responsibility? Damn!

They have a corrupt government, corrupt police and military. They have drug cartels taking over the country and its our responsibility?

Lets build a DMZ type fence. Inspect every vehicle coming into the country. Deport all illegals and let the stew in their own juices.
23 posted on 06/10/2005 5:10:50 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: A CA Guy
This is a mexican shakedown. Give me money, or more of our guys will kill border innocents.

It's also an exscuse for the traitors to integrate with their side.

24 posted on 06/10/2005 5:12:23 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
If there were no demand for illegal drugs in the United States, there wouldn't be drug-smuggling cartels...

They would have to be renamed illegal alien smuggling cartels or kidnapping cartels or robery cartels, etc.

25 posted on 06/10/2005 5:13:51 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin

And they'd be making a lot less money for a lot more risk.


26 posted on 06/10/2005 5:16:03 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Paulus Invictus
What we should do is install our military on the border,…

No. What we should do is float six cruise missiles into Mexico City every time they pop off with their sill crap – OR anytime one of their illegals causes a problem.

That’ll keep their hands full.

Do it and deny everything. Then, with a wink and mischievous grin, tell them to keep their border secure.

There’s the solution. *WE* aren’t going to keep your people out - *YOU* are going to keep them in. End of story.

No use being a superpower if you can’t delegate work.

27 posted on 06/10/2005 5:16:30 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Who dat?
sill crap

silly crap

28 posted on 06/10/2005 5:17:18 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
...the United States also shares responsibility...

I'm sure we could make amends by relinquishing any claim to Texas and Arizona, transferring the contents of Fort Knox to Mexico, or eliminating any semblance of a border.

Or maybe all three.

29 posted on 06/10/2005 5:17:47 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak; Happy2BMe; B4Ranch
He's right, the Untied States does share responsibility.

As long as we pretend to be soverign and allow MILLIONS of Mexicans to enter our country illegally, there are no rules to this game.

30 posted on 06/10/2005 5:18:48 PM PDT by glock rocks ( There are not enough liberals in Utah to bother to appease. - Warren Keuffel)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
...President Vicente Fox's spokesman said the United States shares some responsibility for the problem of border violence.

Vicente, the first step to recovery is admitting that you have a problem, not in finding others to blame. Be a man, Vinnie. Set an example for your crummy countrymen and just 'fess up.

"Hi, my name's Vicente and my country sucks".

Now, if all else fails, blame it on the French!

31 posted on 06/10/2005 5:19:08 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"Without the buyer, the seller is out of business."

And without an American employer, the "hardworking" illegal alien is out of business. Guess I've solved the bulk of the illegal alien problem.

Perhaps you can fix that part having to do with the drug runners...

32 posted on 06/10/2005 5:20:26 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Not enough, a reperations program would also have to be established.


33 posted on 06/10/2005 5:21:01 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Apparently the US can not control the Iraq borders with Syria or SA. No wonder there is no control on the US border with Mexico.

NO Patriot Act renewal until the Mexican and Canadian borders are controlled.

34 posted on 06/10/2005 5:27:31 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: Czar

"And without an American employer, the "hardworking" illegal alien is out of business."

We have a demand problem. You have to cut down demand.

I propose executing employers who hire illegal aliens. If the employer is any sort of joint stock company or partnership, all stockholders and board members will be executed. If the stockholders are institutional investors, all board members and investment account holders in THOSE entities will be executed.

I can see that juries might be reluctant to convict; therefore, we must--regretfully, of course--suspend the right to a jury trial in cases involving illegal immigration.

After we execute a few hundred thousand traitors, America will become a much better place.


35 posted on 06/10/2005 5:29:57 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

To Mexico: Sure, we do. We let you idiots in.


36 posted on 06/10/2005 5:30:33 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: glock rocks

The fight isn't about anything more than the access to moving drugs across the border at Nuevous Laredo. Money, money and more money = fight to keep it. There is probably 5000 semi trailers a day that are moved either with tractors or by trains across that POE.


We probably have enough corrupt Border Patrol Agents in that one POE to supply the UN worldwide. Just the enormity of vehicles being moved everyday makes the job of inspections almost impossible. What an ideal situation for drug dealers.

If citizen groups started following some of these higher ranking agents home at the end of their shift they would more than likely find themselves in the best part of town where everyones wife drives a $50,000+ vehicle and has two maids.


37 posted on 06/10/2005 5:31:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Paladin2

"NO Patriot Act renewal until the Mexican and Canadian borders are controlled."

Define "controlled." What rate of leakage would be acceptable?

And you would forbid intelligence agencies from passing information to law enforcement just because the border isn't controlled to your satisfaction?

I guess you just want to give the terrorists every chance to succeed.


38 posted on 06/10/2005 5:32:16 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Actually they can make more money with far less risk smuggling aliens. Smuggle 10 pounds of cocaine and you go to prison for 3 years. Smuggle ten aliens and you go free.


39 posted on 06/10/2005 5:32:56 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Nonsense. They'd be scrambling to make up any loss. The corruption and greed is thorough.


40 posted on 06/10/2005 5:33:51 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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