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Lou Dobbs: Terror Arrests; Homeland Security; No Boundaries; Sanders & Paul Discussion
Lou Dobbs transcripts.cnn ^ | 6/9/05 | Lou Dobbs

Posted on 06/10/2005 10:22:17 AM PDT by B4Ranch

LOU DOBBS, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening, everybody. Tonight, an astonishing proposal to expand our borders to incorporate Mexico and Canada and simultaneously further diminish U.S. sovereignty. Have our political elites gone mad? We'll have a special report. Now, incredibly, a panel sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations wants the United States to focus not on the defense of our own borders, but rather create what effectively would be a common border that includes Mexico and Canada.

(Excerpt) Read more at transcripts.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; cfr; immigrantlist; loudobbs; northamericanunion; nwocabal; openborders; tinfoilers
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To: Justanobody

The only people this benefits is the wealthy bankers and upper elite. More low income slaves to put to work and control their money. This will not benefit the middle class or the poor. Big corporations and Banks will be the only ones that will prosper from this. The class division begins now, we are almost down to two, if this happens, bye bye middle class!!


21 posted on 06/10/2005 10:53:58 AM PDT by PIEDPOTTAS
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To: PIEDPOTTAS

"The class division begins now, we are almost down to two, if this happens, bye bye middle class!!"

And there are MANY here that would ask you: "What's wrong with that?"


22 posted on 06/10/2005 10:55:59 AM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: B4Ranch
[snip]CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On Capitol Hill, testimony calling for Americans to start thinking like citizens of North America and treat the U.S., Mexico and Canada like one big country.

ROBERT PASTOR, IND. TASK FORCE ON NORTH AMERICA: The best way to secure the United States today is not at our two borders with Mexico and Canada, but at the borders of North America as a whole.

ROMANS: That's the view in a report called "Building a North American Community." It envisions a common border around the U.S., Mexico and Canada in just five years, a border pass for residents of the three countries, and a freer flow of goods and people.

Task force member Robert Pastor. PASTOR: What we hope to accomplish by 2010 is a common external tariff which will mean that goods can move easily across the border. We want a common security perimeter around all of North America, so as to ease the travel of people within North America.

ROMANS: Buried in 49 pages of recommendations from the task force, the brief mention, "We must maintain respect for each other's sovereignty." But security experts say folding Mexico and Canada into the U.S. is a grave breach of that sovereignty.

WAKE UP AMERICA. It is being done through the so called "free trade" agreements such as NAFTA, CAFTA, FTT which leads directly to the WTO. In other words - ONE WORLD ORDER.

23 posted on 06/10/2005 10:56:43 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: american spirit
We, the Ministers Responsible for Trade, representing the 34 countries which participated in the Summit of the Americas, in Miami, in December 1994, met at the IV Ministerial Meeting on Trade in San José, Costa Rica to review the results of the preparatory work for the negotiations of the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)...

What happen to "We the people"?
24 posted on 06/10/2005 10:58:40 AM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
The public has been put through a number of tests in recent years. We have not only failed the tests, we've failed to notice them.

Truer words were never spoken. I'm not looking forward to the day when I'll be labeled a "terrorist".

25 posted on 06/10/2005 10:59:20 AM PDT by zeugma (Democrats are Varelse...)
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To: Justanobody

...It envisions a common border around the U.S., Mexico and Canada in just five years,...

Now you all know why Bush is clearing the way for Hillary.

He has done his part and delivered the sheep.
Next comes the slaughter.


26 posted on 06/10/2005 11:02:33 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: zeugma

You probably already are. The list is still secret for the time being.


27 posted on 06/10/2005 11:03:19 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Mulch
What happen to "We the people"?

There will no longer be "we the people" - only "we the subjects"

28 posted on 06/10/2005 11:04:54 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: Justanobody
whoops....FTT = FTAA
29 posted on 06/10/2005 11:07:04 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: zeugma
I'm not looking forward to the day when I'll be labeled a "terrorist"
Well GWB has already labeled Americans who support secure borders as "vigilantes"...
30 posted on 06/10/2005 11:10:08 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: B4Ranch

The NWO is not the NWO (New World Order), it is the NWULO (the Naive Western Utopian Liberal Oddballs). Firstly, there are vast portions of the world (and always will be) who are vehemently anti Western, will never be "globalized" and will never relate to the idiocy spewed by Thomas L. Friedman (aka "Freakman"). Let me draw an analogy. A boy growing up in a Quaker family starts getting harassed at school. His father tells him he should follow the Quaker way and never get in a fist fight. What will happen? He'll get his butt kicked. If the West continues to believe in the fantasy of a "globalized" world, the West will get its butt kicked.


31 posted on 06/10/2005 11:10:22 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
...It envisions a common border around the U.S., Mexico and Canada in just five years,...

It will not stop here. CAFTA will move us to common borders with Central America as well. From there all one has to do is think .....

32 posted on 06/10/2005 11:11:31 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

It will be attempted, and then, the West will either be conquered, or will almost be conquered. If the West somehow survives, globalism will be discredited (perhaps even a capital offense) for at least 1000 years into the future.


33 posted on 06/10/2005 11:11:48 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Gill go to BORDER 2012 Framework.. 3rd ink below .

See Border XXI

Thread also: Conclusions of the U.S.-Mexico Migration Panel

Border XXI Program

U.S.-Mexico Border 2012 Framework

Just FYI, when they speak of the BORDER REGION, if you go to the EPA website you find in the archives, the Border XXI REGION. The border between the U.S. and Mexico has been replaced by a shaded zone running between the two countries.

Tell me, how many people have heard of the BORDER REGION project and how it is tied to NAFTA and immigration policy??

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Playing the raza card

[snip]

In addition, they, along with his eminence, Mexican President Vicente Fox, believe they should be allowed to vote in our elections as well as Mexico's, even if they know less English than I know Greek


TxDOT eyes La Entrada’s potential (Trans-Texas Corridor) aka, Illegal Alien Highway

Quoting from CorridorWatch:

News Flash - March 11, 2005>

See HB-3363 Note Below - Updated March 20, 2005

Without advance public notice, and announced late on the last day for legislative bills to be filed without the Governor's approval, TxDOT Officials joined by Governor Perry and Federal Highway Administrator Mary Peters signed a 342-page agreement with Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte SA (Madrid, Spain) to create a master plan to finance and build the TTC-35 Trans Texas Corridor generally parallel to IH-35 from the Valley to the Red River. Despite growing concerns over the TTC project, Governor Perry and state officials are charging ahead as quickly as possible to build the first 600-mile segment of the 4,000-mile Trans Texas Corridor. Portions of this agreement are being kept secret under the guise that they contain proprietary business information. CorridorWatch.org believes in open and transparent government.[snip]


And more....

La Entrada al Pacifico, or Gateway to the Pacific

From Presidio to the Pacific

In 2003, Mexico will complete a major section of a new trade corridor to Texas, the La Entrada al Pacifico, or Gateway to the Pacific. The new route is expected to increase trade between the U.S. and Mexico--particularly in Mexico's largest state, Chihuahua--by providing a highway from Chihuahua to Presidio, Texas.

Texas already has most of the necessary infrastructure in place to take advantage of trade opportunities as they develop in Chihuahua. While some projects are in the works to accommodate increased trade in Texas, the majority of the La Entrada effort is taking place

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1402132/posts?page=9#9


Conclusions of the U.S.-Mexico Migration Panel

Border XXI Program

U.S.-Mexico Border 2012 Framework

Just FYI, when they speak of the BORDER REGION, if you go to the EPA website you find in the archives, the Border XXI REGION. The border between the U.S. and Mexico has been replaced by a shaded zone running between the two countries.

Tell me, how many people have heard of the BORDER REGION project and how it is tied to NAFTA and immigration policy??

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Playing the raza card

[snip]

In addition, they, along with his eminence, Mexican President Vicente Fox, believe they should be allowed to vote in our elections as well as Mexico's, even if they know less English than I know Greek


TxDOT eyes La Entrada’s potential (Trans-Texas Corridor) aka, Illegal Alien Highway

Quoting from CorridorWatch:

News Flash - March 11, 2005>

See HB-3363 Note Below - Updated March 20, 2005

Without advance public notice, and announced late on the last day for legislative bills to be filed without the Governor's approval, TxDOT Officials joined by Governor Perry and Federal Highway Administrator Mary Peters signed a 342-page agreement with Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte SA (Madrid, Spain) to create a master plan to finance and build the TTC-35 Trans Texas Corridor generally parallel to IH-35 from the Valley to the Red River. Despite growing concerns over the TTC project, Governor Perry and state officials are charging ahead as quickly as possible to build the first 600-mile segment of the 4,000-mile Trans Texas Corridor. Portions of this agreement are being kept secret under the guise that they contain proprietary business information. CorridorWatch.org believes in open and transparent government.[snip]


And more....

La Entrada al Pacifico, or Gateway to the Pacific

From Presidio to the Pacific

In 2003, Mexico will complete a major section of a new trade corridor to Texas, the La Entrada al Pacifico, or Gateway to the Pacific. The new route is expected to increase trade between the U.S. and Mexico--particularly in Mexico's largest state, Chihuahua--by providing a highway from Chihuahua to Presidio, Texas.

Texas already has most of the necessary infrastructure in place to take advantage of trade opportunities as they develop in Chihuahua. While some projects are in the works to accommodate increased trade in Texas, the majority of the La Entrada effort is taking place


34 posted on 06/10/2005 11:16:20 AM PDT by JesseJane (2008 is TOO Late.. Toss the RINOS in 2006.. remember the Ratpack 7.)
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To: Justanobody

...From there all one has to do is think .....

Think one big happy Guatemala.


35 posted on 06/10/2005 11:16:53 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Whoops, sorry about the 'mondo' triple post.. sheese.. :)


36 posted on 06/10/2005 11:17:28 AM PDT by JesseJane (2008 is TOO Late.. Toss the RINOS in 2006.. remember the Ratpack 7.)
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To: GOP_1900AD
Until the people control the money again nothing will be defeated. Who ever controls all the money, controls all the people. This global agenda is ultimately bieng pulled together by those that want a one world bank. One currency, the way the system works now with the federal reserve bank, is the same model wanted for the world bank. These will be private institutions, just like the Fed Bank now, designed to print worthless money, backed by the faith of the Bankers, and lent to the common people, at rediculous interest rates.
37 posted on 06/10/2005 11:20:33 AM PDT by PIEDPOTTAS
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To: B4Ranch
DOBBS: Working men and women watching you gentlemen here tonight, sitting on Capitol Hill, serving the country, what are the odds that we're going to see real representation of the views, the interests and the values of American working men and women anytime soon?

PAUL: Well, I would say we're not going to see it anytime soon. But I believe that we have to believe it can happen or we shouldn't be here in Congress. We have to be optimistic enough to work within the system to try to change it. But I think it will come. But, unfortunately, I think there's going to be a lot of pain and suffering before we wise up and do the right thing.

I disagree with Rep. Paul on this. As long as the two parties have a stranglehold on the system we'll never see change or representation of the citizens of the respective states in Washington. Neither side cares. But keep voting Republican or Democrat if it makes you feel good. Fat lot of good it will do for anything else

38 posted on 06/10/2005 11:21:52 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: JesseJane

Well, maybe someone will read it.

I've seen this coming since the eighties.
Wrote a novel about it. Should have published it. I'd either have been locked up as a loonie or be hailed as an oracle.


39 posted on 06/10/2005 11:22:27 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: B4Ranch

bttt


40 posted on 06/10/2005 11:23:26 AM PDT by jmc813 (All I cared about was booze, stock cars and women.)
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