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More Foreigners Fight U.S. In Iraq (Joe Biden Alert)
Associated Press ^ | June 10, 2005

Posted on 06/10/2005 4:48:29 AM PDT by robowombat

More Foreigners Fight U.S. In Iraq Associated Press June 10, 2005

WASHINGTON - More foreign fighters than ever are crossing Iraq's porous borders to fight U.S. and Iraqi forces, and a growing number are from U.S.-ally Saudi Arabia, a Senate Democrat said Thursday.

"The mix is changing," said Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., citing conversations last week in Iraq with Marine and Army generals. "Now, the mix is increasingly more Islamist crossing the border ... and a lot of them are Saudis. It presents a different profile" that is harder for U.S. forces to confront.

Biden, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's top Democrat, gave no specific numbers, for foreign fighters as a whole or for the percentage from Saudi Arabia. He said he was told repeatedly that the totals are going up and that Saudis are "a disproportionate number."

"They kept talking about their belief ... that more in terms of numbers of jihadists are crossing the border, more sophisticatedly trained and more capable of doing harm and damage than existed a month ago, three months ago, five months ago," Biden told reporters.

In the past, the U.S. military has said foreign fighters are a small percentage - perhaps one in 10 - of the insurgents fighting the U.S. presence in Iraq. They do a disproportionate amount of killing, however, in part because they are more likely to carry out suicide bombings.

U.S. and other analysts say the foreign fighters are primarily Islamic jihadists, fighting what they claim are anti-Islamic invaders, while the much larger homegrown, mostly Sunni Arab, insurgency has tended to be motivated more by political grievance and factional rivalry.

Part of the Bush administration strategy in Iraq is to improve living conditions and security for ordinary Iraqis and thereby reduce support for the homegrown insurgency. That calculation won't work with foreign fighters, Biden said.

"If you turn on lights, get the air conditioning running and clean up the sewage, that ain't going to have any impact on the jihadist coming across from Saudi Arabia with a bomb strapped on his stomach," said Biden, who has made five trips to Iraq since U.S. forces overthrew Saddam Hussein a little more than two years ago.

The Saudi embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Biden's remarks.

Saudis have been among the foreigners captured by U.S. forces inside Iraq, but the Pentagon and the Bush administration have said little about the national backgrounds of foreign fighters.

Asked about estimates that Saudis make up 40 percent of suicide bombers recruited to Iraq by the Jordanian-born militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Saudi Arabia differs from other nations that may export fighters to Iraq because it is also fighting al-Qaida insurgents on its own territory.

"There's no question but that there have been a number of Saudis involved that have been captured throughout the entire activity," Rumsfeld said.

Biden said a U.S. troop pullout now would be disastrous, but he accused the Bush administration of glossing over the magnitude of the problems and underestimating the time it will take to fix them.

"There is a total disconnect from what I've seen ... being on the ground and what I hear when I come back home," Biden said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; martyrsiniraq

1 posted on 06/10/2005 4:48:29 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Iraq is the terrorist magnet and going exactly as the military expected. I compare it to a giant bug zapper.


2 posted on 06/10/2005 4:52:42 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: robowombat

Iraq is the site where the international Islamist movement has chosen to fight its war. The war on terrorism will be won there, or the decline of the West is positively assured.


3 posted on 06/10/2005 4:56:14 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: tobyhill

Agreed. Better there than on U.S. soil.

We are prepared.


4 posted on 06/10/2005 4:58:51 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
Joe Biden(Sen. Plugs) is nothing more than a horny rat looking for more cheese. He states that we can't pull out but believe me he won't stop complaining about us being there. Do all rats learn to triangulate from Bubba's diary?
Maybe there is a rat 101 triangulation class they all attend.
5 posted on 06/10/2005 5:07:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: tobyhill
Iraq = Islams self-cleaning oven..
6 posted on 06/10/2005 5:16:41 AM PDT by austinite
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To: robowombat
They kept talking about their belief ...

I keep talking about my broken heart....


7 posted on 06/10/2005 5:17:59 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: gaspar

I know what you mean.

There are a lot of differences between Afghanistan and Iraq (chiefly, geography - location), but I wonder whether the fact that the Iraq war had less universal support in the US was a factor in. the terrorists deciding to make a stand there. Our enemies can't defeat us on the battlefield - their ONLY chance is to break our will to fight. Fact of the matter is, the antiwar movement and MSM give our enemies extra leverage by providing "air support," whether they do it unwittingly or otherwise.


8 posted on 06/10/2005 5:28:59 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: robowombat
Biden obviously continues to be an idiot.

This is actually GOOD news. It says that the Iraqis are no longer willing to fight the "Islamists" war for them. It also says that the "flypaper" strategy is working perfectly---the radical hot-head Islamists who are actually willing to fight are being drawn to Iraq, and not sneaking into the US to do "bad things" here. Better to kill them there, than to have to kill them here---AFTER they've killed a bunch of innocent US civilians.

9 posted on 06/10/2005 5:55:10 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: robowombat

More FORIGN fighters to continue the INSURGENCY?

Somebody needs to the Joe "Wheres my face-time" Biden a dictionary.


10 posted on 06/10/2005 2:24:05 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Sheiite.)
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