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Army Again Denies Cover-Up in Tillman Case
Washington Post ^ | June 9, 2005 | John Lumpkin

Posted on 06/09/2005 4:27:47 PM PDT by Asphalt

WASHINGTON -- The Army on Thursday issued a fresh denial that it attempted to cover up the friendly fire death of former pro football player Pat Tillman in Afghanistan. The Army said procedural mistakes were to blame for its slow acknowledgment of the circumstances of Tillman's death. Tillman's parents have criticized the Army for waiting weeks to tell them his death was accidental and did not result from enemy fire.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; army; coverup; denial; football; friendlyfire; oef; pattillman; tillman

1 posted on 06/09/2005 4:27:48 PM PDT by Asphalt
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); akorahil; albee; andyland; Argh; Asphalt; b4its2late; BigBadWolf; ...

NFL PING
FReepmail me to get on or off

2 posted on 06/09/2005 4:36:24 PM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt
This is the d**nedest "story" in the last year. What cover up? Was there or was there not a report on what happened? The MSM wants us to think that Tillman was sure 'nuff stupid for making his sacrifice because he died in a friendly fire incident.

I'd say that all soldiers and sailors that have died from friendly fire in the history of warfare have made the same ultimate contribution as any other person that has died. Same with accidents and those that died of disease they would never have contracted if they had stayed home.

3 posted on 06/09/2005 4:37:04 PM PDT by stevem
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To: stevem

Yeah I feel this is a complete blow up by the LSM. Now, unfortunately, their bias has gotten to the parents of this brave man so the Army is being made to answer for things that happen in WAR.

What is the saying for that?

Shit happens. In this case it was unfortunate shit.


4 posted on 06/09/2005 4:38:31 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (10,000 posts by 29 June!!! 9,538 replies and counting)
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To: MikeinIraq

You already know this, but 15-6 and Article 32 investigations take time even under the most benign of conditions. Add on the fact that this operation where fratricide occured and where at least a portion of the investigation was conducted is in a hostile area, that members of the 2nd Ranger Battalion don't stand down over an investigation- they continue to conduct missions worldwide, plus the victim in this case was as much celebrity as he was soldier, and it's a wonder the Army was able to complete their investigation within the timframe that they did.


5 posted on 06/09/2005 4:48:56 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: TADSLOS

yep. You are completely correct. But the MSM doesnt expect the public to be edu ma kated


:)


6 posted on 06/09/2005 4:51:07 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (10,000 posts by 29 June!!! 9,538 replies and counting)
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To: Asphalt

I don't understand any of this. The reason is I heard shortly after he passed that it was friendly fire. I don't have any feeling it was on purpose either, justy being in the wrong place at the wrong time. God Ble ss Tillman and all who have defended America.


7 posted on 06/09/2005 4:53:34 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: JOE43270

Yes it was friendly fire. I believe all this crap is because the army did not reveal as soon as it found out that it was friendly fire.


8 posted on 06/09/2005 4:55:24 PM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: Asphalt

It could be true. Alot of stuff can happen in that situation. It's very easy to point the finger at the Army, but until you've been on a convoy or a foot patrol you don't know what I'm talking about.

Then again, with the amount of bullsh*t paperwork we have to do in the Army that could have screwed things up as well.


9 posted on 06/09/2005 4:59:49 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: Asphalt

Not saying that you're accusing anybody of anything or that you haven't necessarily been in that situation. It came out wrong. SORRY!


10 posted on 06/09/2005 5:13:40 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: Asphalt

I guess we can keep doing this until we get it right.


11 posted on 06/09/2005 5:14:48 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: JOE43270

well it is a typical MSM trick. make a story where there is none and then scream it at the hills. Some will eventually believe what you are saying...

that said, Tillman caught some M-60 fire (it might have been M249 fire) and died in combat. enough said. As NH says below, the army has MOUNTAINS of paperwork to do just because of a casualty. Add to that it was a green on green incident AND a death just adds to it. Then, of course Pat was a celebrity because of who he was before he was in the military....

the MSM is shameless....


12 posted on 06/09/2005 5:15:47 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (10,000 posts by 29 June!!! 9,538 replies and counting)
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To: TADSLOS

The only addition to your comments is that even the Washington Post reported that the Rangers hammered the entire Chain of Command.


13 posted on 06/09/2005 5:19:23 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: MikeinIraq; Steven
I agree. The MSM is pushing this to make it look like Tillman's enlistment was a waste, justifying all the people who would never join the military. Unfortunately, they've goaded his grief-stricken parents into going after the Army publicly. The Army isn't blameless and did not handle this properly, as evidenced by the people who have been disciplined over this.

But none of that diminishes Tillman's heroism. Friendly fire casualties are part of war and that does not diminish Tillman's heroism.

14 posted on 06/09/2005 5:22:30 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Asphalt

So How many times do they have to say no?


15 posted on 06/09/2005 5:29:06 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Asphalt
Pat Tillman Tribute Video
16 posted on 06/09/2005 9:21:59 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: MikeinIraq

They are shameless and they are on an all-out assault on our military and the mission. Every day that I look at a newspaper, magazine, or television I am amazed and appalled by how blatant their animosity is. The Islamofascists have no greater ally than the Left and their cohorts in the media. It is dangerous, deadly and depressing.


17 posted on 06/10/2005 4:52:15 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: over3Owithabrain
I heard Paul Harvey say yesterday morning that Tillman's death might be due to "fragging". Is this the correct word for another military man to kill another? But, I have not heard one more word of it on any other news source. Anyone?
18 posted on 06/13/2005 12:38:24 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe

bump


19 posted on 06/13/2005 4:22:29 PM PDT by Conservababe
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