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Zero to 76,000 mph in a Second
Yahoo News & LiveScience.com ^ | June 7, 2005 | Leonard David

Posted on 06/09/2005 6:21:36 AM PDT by anguish

Scientists at the Sandia National Labs in Albuquerque, New Mexico have accelerated a small plate from zero to 76,000 mph in less than a second. The speed of the thrust was a new record for Sandia's "Z Machine" - not only the fastest gun in the West, but in the world too.

The Z Machine is now able to propel small plates at 34 kilometers a second, faster than the 30 kilometers per second that Earth travels through space in its orbit about the Sun. That's 50 times faster than a rifle bullet, and three times the velocity needed to escape Earth's gravitational field.

The ultra-tiny aluminum plates, just 850 microns thick, are accelerated at 1010 g. One g is the force of Earth's gravity. Doing so without vaporizing the plates was possible because of the finer control now achievable of the magnetic field pulse that drives the flight.

Z's hurled plates strike a target after traveling only five millimeters, or less than a quarter-inch. The impact generates a shock wave -- in some cases, reaching 15 million times atmospheric pressure -- that passes through the target material. The waves are so powerful that they turn solids into liquids, liquids into gases, and gases into plasmas in the same way that heat melts ice to water or boils water into steam.

One purpose of these very rapid flights is to help understand the extreme conditions found within the interiors of giant planets in our solar system. By creating states of matter extremely difficult to achieve on Earth, the flyer plates provide hard data to astrophysicists speculating on the structure and even the formation of planets like Jupiter and Saturn.

Didier Saumon, an astrophysicist at Los Alamos National Laboratory, noted that the internal structures of Jupiter and Saturn are composed mostly of hydrogen. So knowing its equation of state -- how hydrogen and its isotopes behave at pressures from one to 50 million atmospheres -- is highly relevant to how scientists infer the interior properties of these planets.

An upgrade of the Z Machine is planned for next year and is expected to achieve higher plate velocities.


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To: anguish

i hope that princess lea can get this information to obi wan kanobi so the rebel alliance can take this thing out before it become operational.

teeman


41 posted on 06/09/2005 7:53:26 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: r9etb
The problem would be, however, that the gun would end up flying off in the other direction, probably leaving Earth orbit....

Unless

a) The gun is much more massive than the projectile
b) They have counter thrusters
c) Ya fire two projectiles, one in, one out...

42 posted on 06/09/2005 7:54:17 AM PDT by null and void (Oh what a tag lined web we weave...)
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To: anguish
amazing picture here.
http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/news-releases/2003/images/jpg/zmachine.jpg

43 posted on 06/09/2005 7:58:57 AM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: null and void

Ran the numbers above....


44 posted on 06/09/2005 7:59:29 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: anguish

It would bring new meaning to liquidating you enemy!


45 posted on 06/09/2005 8:28:08 AM PDT by BBell
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To: anguish
This could be useful for space travel. With ballast or waste as fuel, accelerating a mass stream of pellets at 1000g or 80,000 mph should provide some decent thrust.

Imagine a spacecraft with an accelerator, and a ballast load of 127 times that of the spacecraft. Shoot half the load, and the remaining craft weighs 64, and is traveling 80k mph. Shoot half of the remaining and a 32 weight craft is going 160k mph. Shoot half of the remaining and a 16 weight craft is going 240k mph. Shoot half of the remaining and an 8 weight craft is going 320k mph. Shoot half of the remaining and a 4 weight craft is going 400k mph. Shoot half of the remaining and a 2 weight craft is going 480k mph. Shoot half of the remaining weight (all the remaining ballast) and the original craft is going 560,000 mph.

Putting aside the issues of braking and all that space debris, and you can get to Jupiter in a MONTH after the ballast fuel is depleted!
46 posted on 06/09/2005 8:39:15 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: r9etb

The problem would be, however, that the gun would end up flying off in the other direction, probably leaving Earth orbit...



That's a problem?

(Think NASA)


47 posted on 06/09/2005 8:40:26 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: neverdem

Zero to 76,000 mph in a Second!


48 posted on 06/09/2005 8:42:19 AM PDT by all4one (www.missingkids.com)
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To: null and void

Yep... an atomically timed simultaneous firing out of each end should negate even the instantaneous jolt. (of course it would require 2X the power as well)


49 posted on 06/09/2005 9:17:41 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Sheiite.)
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To: InterceptPoint


A small hole in a nuclear warhead will make the thing just a dirty bomb....right?

What little I understand about the stuff is that the design and implosion forces are arranged in a critical manner; a slight deviation in the equal force design makes the thing fizzle. If you can't "kill" the warhead, reducing its effectiveness to that of a car bomb is quite an improvement.


50 posted on 06/09/2005 10:50:37 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Murderous Tyrants are NOT the Answer)
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To: teeman8r
LOL!!


51 posted on 06/09/2005 11:00:50 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: Loud Mime
A small hole in a nuclear warhead will make the thing just a dirty bomb....right? \

Yes it probably would but the chances that it would hit it's target would be zero or darn close to it. Something coming at that speed would simply explode the missile and scatter the radioactive material. Remember - kinetic energy is .5 x mass x velocity squared. When you have even a small mass that velocity squared term really adds up. For example, if the velocity is 5 times that of a bullet then the energy is equivalent to a bullet that is 25 times as big. Make that "bullet" big enough and it could bring down a missile since the missile would have to absorb all of that kinetic energy.

You have to bet that there have been numerous studies on this possibility because the government has been working on impact and laser destruction of missiles for a long time. I would guess that if intercepted at sufficiently high altitude the radioactive material would be so dispersed that it would not be an issue. But that is just a guess.

52 posted on 06/09/2005 11:30:50 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: anguish
I can see a billion military applications for this kind of gun -- if they can make it stable enough.

And once they get the range beyond 5mm.

53 posted on 06/09/2005 4:56:30 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: r9etb

1700 kg would be car sized, way too light. Even a tank is more like 10-20 times that. Putting your dV in the 1-2 m/sec range, not going to do much of anything to an orbit.


54 posted on 06/09/2005 5:14:29 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: InterceptPoint

I'm thinking more of the warhead, not the missile. If we have a space weapon, the target will be the delivery platform, not the booster.....right?

All the same, this stuff amazes me. I'm still impressed with dragsters....8,000 hp and 0-320 in 4.5 secs.

MORE POWER!!


55 posted on 06/09/2005 5:17:57 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Murderous Tyrants are NOT the Answer)
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To: Loud Mime
It is pretty hard to hit a target in the boost phase. You get the infrared signature from our satellites so you know they have launched but I would doubt that there is enough time to fire a weapon.

But an ICBM is vulnerable once it get into it's ballistic trajectory. That is why they MIRV them and use decoys. One launch yields multiple re-entry warheads. Some are real. Some are not. That makes intercepting them all a much harder problem. A good impact weapon floating around in space knocking off the decoys and the real ones sounds a lot easier to me than trying to figure out which is which and then shooting them down with ground based missiles. Space platforms that are defended and armed with high power lasers and impact weapons with a good ground based radar to feed tracking data to should take care of the North Korean threat. Give me a couple of $Trillion and I'll build you a system.

56 posted on 06/09/2005 5:54:30 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: anguish

I use a desktop model for opening enevelopes.


57 posted on 06/09/2005 5:56:24 PM PDT by bvw
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To: anguish
When Sen. Clinton heard about this, she called to ask how quickly it could accelerate an ashtray.
58 posted on 06/09/2005 5:56:55 PM PDT by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: anguish

The gun is kind of big and the projectile is kind of small for military apps.


59 posted on 06/09/2005 6:01:54 PM PDT by RightWhale (I know nothing, and less every day)
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To: sandydipper

You'd have to switch to "Extra Hold" hairspray.


60 posted on 06/09/2005 6:04:52 PM PDT by G Larry (Promote Conservative Judges NOW! YOU BUNCH OF COWARDS!!!)
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