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The Democrats’ Black Problem (Tony Snow)
Tony Snow's Fox News radio website ^ | June 8th, 2005 | Tony Snow

Posted on 06/09/2005 1:34:34 AM PDT by ajolympian2004

Howard Dean can’t catch a break. The guy talks about Republicans in precisely the same way other Democrats talk about Republicans, and everybody makes him out to be a raving Sterno bum. Hillary Clinton’s weekend remarks differed little in substance, tone or tenor from Dean’s recent complaints about the GOP, but she didn’t get skewered, except by right-wingers like me. She was feted as a future president.

Dean’s most recent controversial outburst — that Republicans are a bunch of Christian white guys — took place at a San Francisco forum for minority activists and journalists. In his own way, Dean reverted to an old Democratic practice: He was playing the race card. But unlike Democrats in other eras, he also acknowledged — as he has in other recent conversations with black and Hispanic party regulars — that black voters no longer love Democrats as they once did. The party takes them for granted, treating them more like the help than the party’s most indispensable constituency. Dean noted that he intended to address the problem by visiting early and often, rather than in the weeks immediately before the next presidential plebiscite.

In subtle and unstated ways, Howard Dean has aired a dirty little secret. Democrats have a growing problem with black voters, and it stems from three sources. First comes the simple fact that government “help” has proved an unmitigated disaster for low-income black Americans. Eighty years ago, black children in such places as New York, Philadelphia and Detroit were more likely to grow up in two-parent homes than whites. Now, 70 percent of the nation’s black children are born out of wedlock, black men comprise 70 percent of the nation’s prison population, black graduation rates lag far behind white rates —

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Abby4116

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21 posted on 06/09/2005 3:52:03 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: ajolympian2004
There are so many very well known black Republicans. I'd add JC Watts to that list. Sean Hannity had him on his radio show yesterday afternoon. JC was excellent as usual

I'm a big fan of JC Watts. Why isn't he mentioned more often in the president/vp roles. I think he'd make an excellent vp, for instance...and would be good positioning for perhaps a shot at the White House down the road.

22 posted on 06/09/2005 4:07:59 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: ajolympian2004

I'm still awaiting a party that says what I want to hear. More often than not, I have to trade off some things to get others that I consider more important.


23 posted on 06/09/2005 4:08:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

And Ken Blackwell, hopefully the next govenor of Ohio.


24 posted on 06/09/2005 5:04:22 AM PDT by A message
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To: jocon307

" Is there another white man in prison in Cali besides Scott Peterson?"

The second might be Michael Jackson.


25 posted on 06/09/2005 5:20:42 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: mystery-ak

"I've come to the conclusion that having Dean s te head of the DNC is a rat plot...they knew what he was like before he was appointed....Hillary will come in and save the party......"

Thought here is the loony left along with Hillary will energize the Moveon, NARAL, ACT UP base and from 2007 on, Hillary will move to the center knowing that she will not have to worry about out Kerrying Kerry.

As candidates go, Kerry is the only one in Hillary's way come 2008, unless the RATS decide to go to the middle in the primaries.





26 posted on 06/09/2005 5:24:18 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: A message

From your lips to G*d's ear. He'll be the first genuine Conservative governor this State has had in what, more than fifty years?


27 posted on 06/09/2005 5:28:32 AM PDT by katana
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To: Erik Latranyi

"Prediction: 2008 Republican Presidential Candidate will take around 15% of the black vote."

Let us hope you are right, since every one of those votes will be one for NOT-HILLARY!


28 posted on 06/09/2005 5:30:51 AM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: ajolympian2004

Economic, intellectual and philosophical slavery is a detriment to any life.


29 posted on 06/09/2005 5:42:20 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: jocon307
Is there another white man in prison in Cali besides Scott Peterson?

Charles Manson

30 posted on 06/09/2005 6:41:07 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Exactly when did enforcing immigration policy become vigilantism?)
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To: jocon307

"Is there another white man in prison in Cali besides Scott Peterson?"

Maybe Michael Jackson will be there soon.


31 posted on 06/09/2005 7:17:32 AM PDT by Holicheese (Timmy like windmills!)
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To: Caipirabob

Damn, you beat me to it by minutes!


32 posted on 06/09/2005 7:19:24 AM PDT by Holicheese (Timmy like windmills!)
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To: mhking
FYI.

Good article by Tony. I like the recent news that rapper Russell Simmons praised Ken Melman's outreach and dissed the 'rats. The GOP ranks will be swelling (over time) as Blacks get wiser and wiser to the party's values/issues....

33 posted on 06/09/2005 7:46:52 AM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: ajolympian2004
Dean’s most recent controversial outburst — that Republicans are a bunch of Christian white guys

From Free Republic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1056248/posts

Dean is finally being forced to admit that during his six terms as governor of Vermont he had never named a black or Hispanic to his Cabinet.

"It seems as though you discovered blacks and browns during this campaign," Sharpton chided the Park Avenue Vermonter

34 posted on 06/09/2005 8:33:24 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Erik Latranyi

Your short list reminded me of Phil Gramm's speech at the 2000 Texas State Republican Convention. I had to miss part of it for a conference, but got the best of it. He did a great job of pointing up with names and offices, that for all the Dems claim to be the protecter of blacks in America, Republicans actually get them appointed and elected to higher offices.

Then again, Democrats are probably protecting black Americans from the stress of holding such demanding positions as well as actually deciding for themselves which candidate to vote for. Kind of them, don't you think?


35 posted on 06/09/2005 12:15:15 PM PDT by barkeep
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36 posted on 06/09/2005 8:19:02 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: jocon307
"I heard that in Cali like 25% of the prison pop. are illegals. Is there another white man in prison in Cali besides Scott Peterson?"

I have heard it's closer to 40% in some prisons, maybe even federal.

37 posted on 06/09/2005 8:35:23 PM PDT by de Buillion (Ready, Fire, Aim!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Clarence Thomas
Condoleeza Rice
Colin Powell
Janice Rodgers Brown
Charles Barkley
Lynn Swan

Ken Blackwell
J.C. Watts
etc.

38 posted on 06/09/2005 8:39:50 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: ajolympian2004
Tony Snow "gets it".

FOX needs to put him back on Sunday morning.

39 posted on 06/09/2005 8:48:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for fools.)
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To: Erik Latranyi; All

OMG Lynn Swann aka Pittburgh Steeler guy who won 5 Super bowl that dude alright

BTW Lynn Swann is no Jack Kemp or Jim Kelly which they are Buffalo Bills
They choke on Super bowls LOL!


40 posted on 06/09/2005 9:22:40 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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