Hispanic Growth Surge Fueled by Births in U.S.

Washington Post ^ | 6/9/05 | D'Vera Cohn

[Republican Wildcat]

So this segment is 14 percent of the population but is generating 49 percent of the growth. We are backing into the third world unless we come up with some very creative solutions.

How exactly should we stop people from having children? So Hispanics by virtue of their race will make us the third world?

[HiJinx]

So Hispanics by virtue of their race will make us the third world?

No, hispanics are not a race. They are a culture. Look at what Wardaddy has to say in #15. That's where our third world status is going to come from, within 2-3 generations, barring a catastrophe before then.

Remember, we're wide open for terrorist infiltration right now. Don't you dare think for a second that they aren't already here. Remember the plot to bomb a shopping mall in Ohio that was foiled last year?

[ikka]

TRANSLATION: your property taxes are going through the roof to pay for the illegal alien children's ability to attend school.

[Travis McGee]

I went to an awards ceremony today at my son's middle school in San Diego. (He goes to a public school for reasons too complex to go into here. If you know the initials "IEP" you will have a clue.) There were maybe 300 kids in the assembly hall, fully half are hispanic illegal aliens who are bussed in. About 100 parents were seated on the left side of the hall, kids to the middle and right.

The event began with the female principal on the stage asking for everyone to rise, face the flag, and say the pledge of allegiance.

It was chaos. Hooting, joking, yelling during the pledge of allegiance, which was drowned out. It was unbelievable.

The principal was mortified, and using the microphone on the lectern, she dressed down the students, saying they had disgraced the country, the flag, our troops who are fighting for our freedom overseas. It was amazing, and about half (guess which half) of the parents applauded her when she was done.

I'm afraid that we are being invaded, it's an "illegal immivasion." Many or perhaps most of these kids don't want to be Americans, don't even like America, they're just here for the free education, money, etc. They don't want to assimilate, they want to take over in hispanic enclaves. They consider their enclaves Mexican territory on reconquered land.

Twenty years from now, our children will curse our stupidity and naivete. We are setting our children up for an ethnic and cultural civil war; we are going to give them Kosovo and Bosnia times 100 as their inheritance.

(Once upon a time, the majority Serbs in the Serbian province of Kosovo thought allowing lots of illegal aliens from Albania into Kosovo was a great idea. Lots of cheap labor! Look where that got the Kosovo Serbs, in the end. If you can find any alive, who are not in hiding in the land of their grand fathers.)

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U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

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Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

[wardaddy]

Hispanics are harder workers than liberal babyboomers

Oh absolutely. Drive through any barrio and check out the burrheaded tattooed Mexican gang or Honduran gang members working their butts off smoking fatties and polishing their rims. Meanwhile baby boomers like me (most of whom are conservative not liberal) work our butts off to pay taxes so your illegal kinfolks can get hospital care and overcrowd our public schools that we can't use anyhow so we get to work a little harder for private school then. Did I mention car insurance and the fact that your illegal brethren have none? I get to work and pay for that too. I'm doing three projects right now and I swear to you and anyone else here that none of your cherished illegals will lift one brick or lay one piece or sod or one roof tile. Nada. It'll cost a bit more but it's the right thing and cheap ain't always the best anyhow. Mexican brick layers might be cheap but they don;t do half the job the old black men did....same for roofing.

Hispanics are more honest

You're nuts....that is pure conjecture BS. You've gotten used to selling your lies to gullible freepers haven't you?

[wardaddy]

Hispanics are more honest

You see that upthread?

[Travis McGee]

"Albanians are more honest" (said the greedy Kosovo Serb employer of illegal aliens).

Thirty years later, they cut off his head.

[wardaddy]

BTTT.


It is a different immigration wave by just about every measurement.

The future looks troubling. I'm sorry to leave it like this for my children.

We have been such idiots. Most of this is just the past 15 years.

[wardaddy]

Neither myself nor most of the folks I deal with will hire illegal Mex crews anymore around here.

Many folks are getting fed up....especially with the crime.

But....many lazy folks do hire illegal yardworkers and I see masonry and asphlat labour out there on big jobs.

It's a damned mess.

There are now more Mexicans than Blacks in metro Nashville...that is astounding....and the vast majority are illegals.

The state and locals won't lift a finger and the dems try to get them voter IDs.

[Travis McGee]

When (not if) there is another economic depression, does anyone think that 20+ million illegal aliens are going to just up and go home?

Hell no.

We will have twenty "Sarajevos" when the economy fails, the jobs are gone, the gas stations dry, the ATMs dead, the supermarkets empty.

The social cohesion which allowed us to weather the Great Depression is utterly gone. The cholos and homies are not going to stand quietly in soup lines singing "Kumbaya" during the Greater Depression.

Bosnia + Kosovo X 100 = our future.

[PRND21]

the Greater Depression.

Try Midol, Drama Queen.

[Travis McGee]

How's the little illegal alien doing these days?

[AnimalLover]

PING

[Caipirabob]

The problem is the volume and the illegality. The only reason latin is in the mix is proximity. It could be from anywhere...it would be the same problem more or less.

I think you've nailed the heart of the problem.

I'm against Illegal immigration as much as anyone. In addition the Latinos I know are highly offended by it due to the fact that our own government is slapping them in the face by ignoring it. Many of them worked for 5-8 years and spent lots of money with lawyers doing it "The Right Way" in respect for our laws and our nation.

Then you have the criminals who simply cross over and sap our infrastructure by not paying taxes, bankrupting hospitals over non-payment of emergency care, hit and run accidents and other criminal activities.

Any decent American, born or recent opposes this activity .

As far as rascism, partiotism isn't racism. Many here are concerned over the impact of nonassimilation of the new cultures arriving here. Suffice to say there there are many of us working "overtime" to ensure that we do embrace these new comers. Our children will grow up loving and respecting this nation. They will share a voice with the Latino community, we are doing our best to ensure that they speak it with the values that will serve and preserve the nation that we knew growing up.

I know you aren't being rascist. I have read hundreds of your posts and respect your opinions...both of you.

My initial commentary was thrown in because I felt the thread needed to have more perspective on the good side of the issue. Legal Latinos know the problems associated with the real issue. As long as people know it's not hispanics in general. They are a good and decent people and those who come here respecting our laws and values will make outstanding American citizens.

As far as "voluntary acceptance" of the issue. I don't accept it at all. Neither do my Latino friends. Like I said, many of them are PO'd and insulted as much as any of us. "What makes them special that they can ignore the law we worked so hard to obey" is the general attititude. They are disgusted as much as any of us.

I know the issue is very real and dangerous to our society. I hold the government itself responsible for not defending our borders. I can only do so much as one man. Raising my children to love and respect this nation is among the bests things I can contribute.

My wife came here to live her dream. We married the year after she became a citizen through the legal process, which took many, many years. If people knew how much she loved this country and how hard she worked to become a citizen, they'd be inspired, not threatened.

And again, the real issue of illegals overrunning our nation and sapping it's strength is very much a concern. We will need to change our own government's attitude to correct it.

[JarheadFromFlorida]

[[It's going to have profound effects on America. They are no longer regionally concentrated in places like California and New York," said Harry P. Pachon, president of the Tomas Rivera Policy Institute, a California think tank.]]

They are not concentrated yet UNTIL they are all called home to Aztlan (the American southwest)to succeed from the union. Once the Mexican population physically shifts to the border states that they refer to as Aztlan, then their mission is complete. Goodbye southwest USA.

[GOPGuide]

Such a shame that the Census Bureau won't tell you that between 40-45% of those 41.3 million Hispanics in the US are here ILLEGALLY (and not the 25-27% the Census wants you to believe).

So really the AMERICAN Hispanic population is only between 23-26 million people, far below the number of African Americans.

[Porterville]

Oh, you are the one who is scared of Hispanics and I guess tattoos too. But I'm interested to see you be more upset about a concentration of a race than a nationwide philosophy of socialistic fiat.

[Porterville]

You think my family is illegal or 100% of my Hispanic friend? You are insulting and throw out numbers because it is what you want to believe. Being scared of other races is no excuse for making up figures.

[Porterville]

There are at most 8 million illegal aliens not 20 million. Fake figures to freak people out. 85% of all Hispanics are here legally.

[oldbrowser]

So Hispanics by virtue of their race will make us the third world?

Hispanic is a culture, it is not a race. I'm saying that the famous "melting pot" can only assimilate so many people at one time.

We have lost control of our borders and we are getting overwhelmed. We have limited resources, we have differences in language, culture, education levels, etc., if we are not careful we will balkanize.

I believe that immigrants are the "secret spice" that makes America the greatest country in the world but it won't work if the country collapses.