Posted on 06/08/2005 7:39:02 PM PDT by wagglebee
sin is sin - but those who have accepted Jesus and are following Jesus through His Word DAILY are washed in His blood.
More severe penalties? HOW SO? It's hell or heaven.
Defending and then repenting is not what is happening here.
Not sure what you are saying that I haven't already said - of course the Bible is full of warnings about sin. How else would we know about sin.
Christians are quite capable of choosing sin/defending it - AND? THAT MAKES IT RIGHT? We are sinners by nature BUT Christians choose to turn away DAILY under the conviction of the HOLY Spirit.
Christians DAILY take up the cross - turn from flesh DAILY, fall DAILY AND REPENT DAILY, and are led by the Holy Spirit. Their faith grows DAILY. Somehow, you want to dump anyone that says they are Christian, while deliberately and boastfully living a sinful lifestyle, under the same umbrella as those who choose a lifestyle following Him rather than following one's own fleshly desires.
Without Christ in my life who knows where I would be - I am not any better than anyone else but I am BLESSED because of my choice.
There will be a time when some call evil good and good evil and that time is here now.
I see that we've forgotten punctuation and spelling, too. ;-)
You asked, "I am curious where it is, Biblically, that people justify condemning this woman." Point to one who is condemning her on this thread ... you are perhaps confusing the Christian admonition to deal with sin in the midst of the Church, and condemning this woman. So far, I've seen not one person taking the part of the men picking up stones to stone the woman at Jesus's feet. I have seen and have joined in an effort to point up the contradiction in her words and actions. Not being a Christian, perhaps this is a difficult distinction for you, but Christians are instructed to not allow the fallen to fellowship continually when they have no part in the Resurrection found in Christ Jesus. It is a Christian 'thing' to want this beautiful young woman to turn from her sin and accept the transforming presence of God, in reality not lipservice, into her life. That must be a hard thing for you to 'hear'.
Don't you people have anything better to worry about. She's a citizen, just like you. It's stuff like this that make us look really, really, silly.
The old: "I know I am right and I'll beat you into submission to prove it!"
I'm sure that history's dictators all thought they were doing right by their moral compasses.
You're kidding right?
You don't know that in the Bible God prescribes the death penalty for some sins and for others He prescribes merely restoring property to the offended party?
Why would God prescribe more severe penalties for some sins if He didn't consider them worse?
Whoever said it "MAKES IT RIGHT"?
My point was that we can't judge a person as NOT being a Christian because they happen to fall into sin.
With all due respect, you really need to keep track of what the dialog is about so you can respond to a poster's actual statements.
Just a suggestion.
And I ask where it defines what she does as a sin. How is "sexual immorality" defined?
If the Bible does not define her work as a sin, then wrongly accusing her of being apostate is sinful, and those who criticize her should be shunned from Christian fellowship.
How about #7 above.... "If you knowingly, habitually commit sin...you have no business calling yourself a Christian. " Isn't saying someone is not a Christian mean that person is condemned, or do you go by the idea that there's a way to be saved other than through Him? Sounds to me like there is condemning going on, or else wishful condemning.
Most all politicians are political whores. They should welcome her with open arms!
Where does the Bible say such a thing?
You can do whatever pleases you. You seem to have a thing about "judging and condemning".
According to you, if the terrorist's started calling themselves Christians, you would say "now, we don't know if they aren't Christians in their hearts".
I REPEAT - "WE will know them by their fruits". AMEN
If you don't believe God when He says that - don't.
I believe it and if a non - Christian asks me, "Can I live like her and be a Christian" - I would say NO! According to your thinking, you would say, "If in your heart you think you are a Christian, and since everyone sins, it would be ok".
If I believe in my heart that I am the smartest person in my neighborhood, does that make it so? I could be deceived. So believing something in my heart is just something I want to believe about myself and according to you - I must be right. Instead of you taking a stand and showing me the errors of my boastful 'heartful thinking' - you will let me slide into my boastful ways since it is what I believe in my heart.
Be Hot or Cold but lukewarm - I will spew you out of my mouth.
The porn babe can do whatever she wants - she knows exactly what she is doing and I am not condemning or judging BUT I will not let it pass saying her lifestyle is that of a Christian just because she believes it in her heart. She is deceived. Only a fool rejects correction.
I need to keep tracK? (Of course, with the "with all due respect".)
Happen to fall into sin? Is this what she did - just happen to fall into sin? Or did she made a decision to choose a life of sin and boast about it? Christians are ashamed of our sins - the only thing we boast about is how Jesus' Blood saved us, redeemed us, washed us clean.
For some reason, you can't see the difference.
Only unjust judgment and condemnation.
Jesus says "judge not, lest you be judged".
Something you seem to have conveniently forgotten.
According to you, if the terrorist's started calling themselves Christians, you would say "now, we don't know if they aren't Christians in their hearts".
What an absurd and extreme distortion.
Next you're going to be claiming I said Hitler could be a genuine Christian.
All because I don't believe sinless perfection is the test of one's Christianity.
Incredible.
Whoever said this? What on earth are you talking about?
I can't believe how disconnected and incoherent your arguments are becoming.
I never said the porn star MUST be a genuine Christian just because she claims to be one.
You really need to learn to read posts before you respond.
For some reason you can't seem to read the posts you respond to.
I NEVER made the idiotic statements you insist on arguing with me about.
There is a plethora of ingenious and complex intriguing features in English Lit...nothing like it in the world especially the classics.
It's the people who often major in it that are prone to disturbing behavior and attitudes.
Sharp as an orange? Hmmm...can't give you any credit for that. You haven't defined the terms.
Stop it J.
You are getting in the way of their 'damn all the sluts, whores and evil women' fest.
Why do you keep saying condemning and judging?
Unjust as opposed to just??
I repeat - I did not condemn her - people condemn themselves and God judges. And He explains it explicitly in HIS WORD. I forgot nothing but that's the only verse you hang onto.
It is not absurd or a distortion - you said, "if she believes it in her heart, then it is so. Your statement only applies to the porn star?
I have no idea what you are going to say next.
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