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To: WKB; rwfromkansas; RnMomof7; Frumanchu
All I can assume by "them" is God fearing Christians.

Christians like those who came to America to Worship the Sovereign God.

Christians who lead the Revolutionary War. They were so involved in that war that King George referred to it as the "Presbyterian Revolt."

Great leaders of history and today, like Andrew Jackson, Stonewall Jackson, Ronald Reagan, Condoleezza Rice, Dick Armey, James Buchanan, Aaron Burr, (U.S. Vice-President under Jefferson), The Rev. Aaron Burr (co-founder of Princeton University), John C. Calhoun, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Bill Frist, Katherine Harris, Benjamin Harrison, Christine Todd Whitman, Woodrow Wilson.

One of those who penned and signed the Declaration of Independence? One of those whose model of Church Government was the basis for our very own Constitution. So profound was the impact of those that the historian Ranke said that "John Calvin was the virtual founder of America."

One of those who went to Brazil, India, and other hell-holes of the world seeking out God's elect? Men like Stanley Livingstone and William Carey?

One of those? I am, indeed one of those. I am one of those who proudly bears the title


227 posted on 06/08/2005 11:52:47 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't beat "nice" people to a bloody pulp, nail them onto a cross and then watch them suffocate.)
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To: Gamecock
Yep, either smug self-satisfaction or despair. Those are the fruits of Calvin's doctrine.

SD

229 posted on 06/08/2005 11:54:33 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Petronski

This is what I meant by "zoo."


230 posted on 06/08/2005 11:55:50 AM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Gamecock

"One of those who went to Brazil, India, and other hell-holes of the world seeking out God's elect?"

If the elect were not found, what would it matter?


234 posted on 06/08/2005 12:05:20 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: Gamecock
Great leaders of history and today, like... James Buchanan...John C. Calhoun...Christine Todd Whitman..."

And you're proud of this? Buchanan and Calhoun were both pro-slavery. Calhoun was rabidly so! And as for Christine Todd Whitman, well...where do I begin...

237 posted on 06/08/2005 12:13:17 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Gamecock
One of those who went to Brazil, India, and other hell-holes of the world seeking out God's elect?

Did God lose them?

247 posted on 06/08/2005 12:31:29 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Gamecock

All I can assume by "them" is God fearing Christians.



So then am I to understand that if I don't believe
just exactly like you do then I am NOT a God
fearing Christian.


264 posted on 06/08/2005 12:43:32 PM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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