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Bob Jones U. Bans Abercrombie and Fitch Clothing Line: For 'Wickedness' & 'Antagonism to Christ'
The Huffington Post ^ | 6/7/05 | Arianna Huffington

Posted on 06/07/2005 1:55:36 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

Abercrombie and Fitch and its subsidiary Hollister have shown an unusual degree of anatagonism to the name of Christ and an unusual display of wickedness in their promotions.

In protest, we will not allow articles of clothing displaying their logos to we worn, carried or displayed. (even if covered or masked in some way)

(Excerpt) Read more at huffingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; bobjonesu; christianschools; dresscode; whackydoddles
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To: justshutupandtakeit
If BJU began accepting students under GI Bill provisions, you'd have a blue zillion complaints. BJU would go broke just answering the questions from the relevant federal agency.

Look, I have personal experience being on the delivery end of these complaints ~ bunch of Blue Nosed do-gooders out there think they are helping America by beating up on BJU, but while they are doing that they paralyze the government agencies they complain to.

A POX ON THEM.

501 posted on 06/08/2005 1:39:44 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah

Thousands of other schools manage to accomodate the GI Bill without difficulty. Not that I would recommend BJU to any veterans not interested in the ministry anyway.


502 posted on 06/08/2005 1:52:53 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: pamlet

Catholic schools have always had a goodly number of non-Catholic students who attended their own churches. They have come for an education that is not available at public schools. I view Bob Jones in the same manner. Students attend for the education they want and religious denomination is not always central to their agenda. Catholic children have attended Christian schools and derived benefit from the biblical teachings while remaining Catholic. I knew two students from BJU who were there for the superior music dept, and I know graduates who became highly successful in business because of their BJU education. I think that by marching to their own tune, BJU can speak out about A&F without the consequences that can inhibit others.


503 posted on 06/08/2005 1:53:50 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: Old Lady
Modesty is fine, conservative dress is fine, but saying no denim shirts etc. and connecting that with "being bad" is a lot of hooey.

Please explain to me how they connected "being bad" with wearing denim shirts etc. (or was it you who did that?)

504 posted on 06/08/2005 1:57:42 PM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: lugsoul
...but wearing a shirt made by slave labor in an oppressive Islamic country is not [verboten]

You just gotta tell me where I can buy one of those Islamic slave labor shirts. Do you suppose they sell them at the campus bookstore?

505 posted on 06/08/2005 2:04:28 PM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: 70times7
You just gotta tell me where I can buy one of those Islamic slave labor shirts.

Walmart can usually be pretty reliable in stocking these items.

506 posted on 06/08/2005 2:05:21 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez wasn't cool.)
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To: 70times7

I'm sure you can get one at Target, or the Gap, or just about anywhere else sells mass-produced clothing.


507 posted on 06/08/2005 2:10:21 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: pamlet; All

Well .. if you had bothered to read the thread .. you might have noticed that I have never even tried to change anybody's mind - but I have been consistantly called names and told I'm a liar.

I believe I said more than one time .. I don't give a rip what other people think about this issue .. I know what I saw and I know what I believe and I'm not afraid to stick with it - while I was told I had to admit I was lying.

I'm done with this conversation .. because all you tolerant Christian people are a joke!! I still think it's really funny that more and more people continue to come to this thread to see if they can take me down. YOU LOST!!!


508 posted on 06/08/2005 2:11:58 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Well, thousands of other schools are not BJU. Believe me, they have their enemies.


509 posted on 06/08/2005 2:12:14 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: mountainfolk

Smile - well said!


510 posted on 06/08/2005 2:12:58 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: CyberAnt

You should simply re-IPL your main processor chip and try again eh?!


511 posted on 06/08/2005 2:13:18 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: hispanarepublicana; lugsoul

Those are chinese dirt-cheep labor shirts - not the same thing...


512 posted on 06/08/2005 2:13:23 PM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: muawiyah

No doubt.


513 posted on 06/08/2005 2:20:45 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: gopwinsin04
I didn't know nudity was allowed in catalogs over the mail without consumer consent.

I think you had to order the catalog if gotten by mail or asked to be put on their catalog mailing list. Most were handed out to teenagers when they visited the stores and ask for it. (so parents wouldn't see it or find out)

514 posted on 06/08/2005 2:26:42 PM PDT by A. Patriot
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To: A. Patriot

You have to either be on the mailing list or purchase the catalogue at the store. There's no conspiracy to slip the catalogue to kids without their parents knowing. A&F has no social agenda other than making a ton of money.


515 posted on 06/08/2005 2:32:19 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: gopwinsin04

I tell ya what. I am an open minded mother but that catalogue they had with the semi nudity in backseats of cars, etc., did it for me. We no longer shop there. We go to American Eagle.


516 posted on 06/08/2005 2:34:44 PM PDT by buffyt ("If men are so wicked with religion, what would they be if without it?" Ben Franklin)
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To: durasell
You have to either be on the mailing list or purchase the catalogue at the store. There's no conspiracy to slip the catalogue to kids without their parents knowing. A&F has no social agenda other than making a ton of money.

I agree about the money part, but by allowing under age teenagers to purchase in the store circumvents parental control over what their children see. It's a matter of rights of parents that is violated here. You have to be at least 18 in most places to buy skin magazines.

What reputable merchant sells what could be considered porn to children? Here is a good take on it from the SanFrancisco Journal:

http://www.dadsanddaughters.org/action/SF_Chronicle.pdf

517 posted on 06/08/2005 3:01:05 PM PDT by A. Patriot
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To: 70times7

All of them? C'mon. Where do you think Nike makes their gear?


518 posted on 06/08/2005 3:16:17 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: A. Patriot

From what I've heard, A&F pulled back significantly from the nudity after the 1993 debacle. So the catalogue has been toned down. It's still racy, but less skin showing. Speaking with the few garmentos I know, apparently A&F didn't fully understand their market. They thought they were selling to the 18 and up crowd. This was a logical assumption given the price of their stuff. However, it was a false assumption since many tweens or young will get mom and dad to purchase that $35.00 t-shirt.

As for circumventing parental control, kids have been doing that since, well, forever. The responsibility rests -- as it always has -- with the parents. They are responsible for fighting that particular war and not the manufacturers or the retailers. When parents say they want a society safe for their kids, what they mean is that they want someone else to do their job.


519 posted on 06/08/2005 3:26:36 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: A. Patriot

"They also had an "advice" column for teenagers"



Technically, the magazine/catalogue, was for those 18 years of age or older... and they required PROOF of age, prior to purchase.


520 posted on 06/08/2005 3:27:44 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Please don't squeeze the Koran. I gotta go to the bathroom.)
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