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It’s Still Nixon’s America: Deep Throat brings it all back - with a vengeance
Tribune Media Services ^ | June 8, 2005 | Paul Greenberg

Posted on 06/06/2005 8:24:01 PM PDT by quidnunc

The historical sense … involves a perception, not only of the pastness of the past, but of its presence…. – T. S. Eliot

Wh-a-a-t? Mark Felt was Deep Throat? And here all along I thought it was Hal Holbrook. For the Nixon Years long ago took on the look of a classic old movie, specifically a film noir you might run across in the middle of the night on TV and be unable to turn off. You know you really should be getting some sleep, but the story — and the characters! — cast a spell.

It was Bob Dole, that least poetic of politicians, who said it at the Nixon Funeral in 1994, which was a show in itself: The last half-century of American history would be remembered as the Age of Nixon.

Like a lot of things Bob Dole says, it had the unexpected, even unsuspected, ring of uncomfortable truth once spoken out loud. I'd never thought of it that way before. Usually when people attribute a whole age to someone (The Age of Pericles, The Age of Louis XIV) there is something stately, or heroic, something capital-H History, about the name they choose to define a whole age.

But here was a figure most of us never thought of as towering over his times but rather as the politician who was just always, irritatingly there. Even when he was offstage, Richard Nixon was just waiting for his next improbable entry — and disgraceful exit. If there's such a thing as being polarizing without being in the least charismatic, Richard M. Nixon was that rare thing.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deepthroat; feltgate; markfelt
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1 posted on 06/06/2005 8:24:03 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
The generation that came of age after Nixon and during BJ's administration are probably scratching there heads why. Sadly there are no tapes of BJ's Oral Office to put on display to see how miserable a human being he was.
2 posted on 06/06/2005 8:29:06 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Occasional intelligent posts hidden by sarcasm.)
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To: quidnunc
This message is for the DU crowd.......

This is not Nixon's America, nor does it belong to him.... It belongs to Karl Rove!!! He has already said so :-)

3 posted on 06/06/2005 8:29:06 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( By Comparison...."Dingy" Harry Reid makes Tom Daschle look like a Statesman)
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To: quidnunc

To an uncomfortable extent, the times are still, for better or worse or both, nixonian. The clintonesque was only a milder version of the same disingenuous style, the way Bill Clinton was Richard Nixon without any great political issues...In short, it is still the Age of Nixon.



Absolutely wrong. For all his faults, Nixon put America first. When the Daley Machine STOLE Illinois from Nixon in 1960, Nixon conceded honorably to Kennedy for the sake of the nation. There were no recounts or legal actions.

When it came time to resign in 1973, Nixon didn’t send missiles into Afghanistan- or extort virtually the entire Congress by “outing” other politicians, and thus cause the hatred that still imbues America as a result of Clinton’s refusal to do the honorable thing and resign, but instead, he insisted on disgracing the Nation.

In defeat, you see the character of a man. Look at the whining of Gore and Kerry, that continues to foster the spirit of political hated in this nation. This is the remants of Clintonism. Nixon put the nation first, Clinton put himself first.

No, the hatred in American politics is not the Age of Nixon-it remains the legacy of Clinton.


4 posted on 06/06/2005 8:43:15 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: ProudVet77
Sadly there are no tapes of BJ's Oral Office to put on display...

Don't be too sure. During impeachment there were a bunch of stories claiming that every room in the White House is covered with video surveillance - in the event of terrorist attack, etc. Somebody in the Secret Service or NSA probably got an eye full. Hillary probably has copies.

5 posted on 06/06/2005 8:50:11 PM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned? Hell, that's better than the alternative!)
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To: sirthomasthemore

Agreed. Nixon was a lot of things - many I strongly disagreed with - but he was a patriot.


6 posted on 06/06/2005 8:52:44 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (NEW and IMPROVED: Now with 100% more Tyrannical Tendencies and Dictator Envy!)
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To: sirthomasthemore
Well said, sir. This is exactly what I have been thinking during the last days as the MSM has reveled in the renewed opportunity (via the DT revelation) to portray Nixon's Administration as the worst and most corrupt in American history. Your points will never be made by those in the MSM. What is most troubling about that is yet another generation is being fed the lies and half truths about Nixon, Watergate, and the aftermath. I was but a toddler when Nixon resigned, but I have always had an unusual curiosity about the events leading to and surrounding that event. Unfortunately, there are many in my generation that STILL swallow everything the MSM dishes out without question.
7 posted on 06/06/2005 9:00:44 PM PDT by Kylie_04
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To: sirthomasthemore

Again--well perceived, Sir T.


8 posted on 06/06/2005 9:25:02 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: quidnunc

This whole Nixon redux is nothing but another dying gasp of the 60's baby boomer leftist dinosaurs as they relive the glory days.


9 posted on 06/06/2005 9:48:22 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: sirthomasthemore
Well said, and exactly right.
10 posted on 06/06/2005 9:57:13 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("A man's character is his fate." -Heraclitus)
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To: Kylie_04
Kylie-04,

The liberal media HATED Nixon ever since he beat Helen Gahagan Douglas for Senate in 1952. He portrayed her as a communist, his famous line was "she was pink right down to her underwear". The press had the knives out for him for the rest of his life, and now, his after life.

He was a political genius, and a ruthless politician -make no mistake. He did "illegal" things that every other President had done, but he got caught. Everybody exceeds the speed limit at some point without getting caught; but when you're busted,you're busted. With Nixon, the media had the "radar gun" on him all the time.

But, if I had to choose one President to lead me in a time of crisis, he would be the one.

As for the MSM, that's why they put "mute" buttons on the remote. :o) Take care.
11 posted on 06/06/2005 10:08:09 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: Mach9

High praise. Appreciated, Mach. :-)


12 posted on 06/06/2005 10:11:55 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: sirthomasthemore

I too couldn't agree more.

I bet there are a lot of us 50 year olds that can't say enough about at least one of Nixon's accomplishments.

Number 35 was kinda scary back then.


13 posted on 06/06/2005 10:12:02 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: A Jovial Cad

"exactly right."



Thanks, Jovial. Glad you share my thoughts, great minds think alike. :o)


14 posted on 06/06/2005 10:14:14 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: darbymcgill

Darby,

Ditto my post #14 to you. :o)


15 posted on 06/06/2005 10:20:38 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: All
Too bad that because Nixon failed to uphold the law,
we are still stuck with Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry.


If Nixon hadn't caved into the minority anti-war crowd
and listened to the Silent Majority
Hanoi Jane AND Hanoi Kerry
would have been prosecuted for their treason in the 70's,
while Nixon was still President.

Keep in mind that Nixon was directly involved in Viet Nam,
as Vice President, going back to at least 1955.

So Hanoi Jane AND Hanoi Kerry keep a high profile,
and always watch your yellow backs.
Nixon is NOT HERE to protect you.
You are on your own.

26 Sep 1945 - The first death of an American serviceman in Vietnam occurred.
OSS (Office of Special Operations) Major (Lieutenant Colonel) A. Peter Dewey
was killed in action by the Communist Vietminh near Hanoi.

May 1950 President Harry S Truman authorised $10 million in aid to the French for their war in Viet Nam.
By January 1951, $150 million had been given in aid.

1953-61 Dwight D. Eisenhower 34th US President
1953-61 Richard M. Nixon Vice President
1953 - The US is supporting the French in the amount of $1 billion per year--
33% of all US foreign aid--which is 80% of the total cost to the
. US Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles (under Eisenhower) first voices the 'Domino Theory':
if one country in Southeast Asia falls to the Communists, they will all fall, one by one.

12 Feb 55 - President Eisenhower's administration sends 1st 350 U.S. advisers to South Vietnam
to train the South Vietnamese Army

8 Jun 56 - The first American of record to die in Vietnam
was Air Force Tech Sergeant Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr.
His son, Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, died in Vietnam Sep 7, 1965.
8 Jun 56 Has been formally recognized by the Pentagon as the first American officially to die in that war.

5 Sep 56 - President Eisenhower tells a news conference that the French are
"involved in a hopelessly losing war in Indochina" 1956 The US believed in that Ho Chi Minh would have won any election held in Viet Nam and used their influence over the government of the State of Viet Nam to ensure that the election was not held




From a Must Visit Site
Vipers Vietnam Veterans Page, A Vietnam Veteran & Proud Web Site
About Vietnam

The Vietnam war was the longest in our nation's history.
1st American advisor was killed on June 08, 1956,

and the last casualties in connection with the war occurred on May 15, 1975, during the Mayaquez incident. Approximately 2.7 million Americans served in the war zone; 300,000 were wounded and approximately 75,000 permanently disabled. Officially there are still 1,991 Americans unaccounted for from SE Asia.

Vietnam was a savage, in your face war where death could and did strike from anywhere with absolutely no warning. The brave young men and women who fought that war paid an awful price of blood, pain and suffering. As it is said: "ALL GAVE SOME ... SOME GAVE ALL"
The Vietnam war was not lost on the battlefield. No American force in ANY other conflict fought with more determination or sheer courage than the Vietnam Veteran.  For the first time in our history America sent it's young men and women into a war run by inept politicians who had no grasp of military strategies and no moral will to win. They were led by "top brass" who were concerned mainly with furthering their own careers, most neither understood the nature of the war nor had a clue about the impossible mission with which they'd tasked their soldiers.  And the war was reported by a self serving Media who penned stories filled with inaccuracies, deliberate omissions, biased presentations and blatant distorted interpretations because they were more interested in a story than the truth! It can be debated that we should never have fought that war. It can also be argued that the young Americans who fought so courageously, never losing a single major battle, helped in a huge way to WIN THE COLD WAR.






16 posted on 06/06/2005 10:30:47 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Proud to be a Viet Nam Vet AND a Lifelong Independent Voter!)
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To: sirthomasthemore

Nison had a sense of history well beyond his last meal or sexual encounter.


17 posted on 06/06/2005 10:37:12 PM PDT by des
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

So much about the Watergate and ‘Deep Throat’, he was a small player in the over all plan. He and the media were used as chess pieces for a larger game. ‘The Amendment’ by John Fitzgerald describes a much large plan that dwarfs over the Watergate. The theory behind the story is amazing and really does leave you wondering, what really happen to Nixon. The 25th Amendment, Agnew, Kissinger and Rockefeller. This book is the 'Da Vinci Code' of American politics.


18 posted on 06/06/2005 10:37:34 PM PDT by bondsman
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To: sirthomasthemore

It was actually his participation on HUAC and nailing Alger Hiss that the left never forgave him for. Like Joe McCarthy, the radical left was determined to destroy him for pointing out communist infiltration of the government during the FDR and Truman administrations. "Treason" by Ann Coulter lays it all out.

One interesting thing about the 1960 election I stumbled on a few years ago was that JFK and Nixon were actually pretty good friends, and Kennedy told an aide that if he lost the RAT nomination, he'd vote for Nixon! Of course, back then, there were still some Dems who cared about America.

As it is, if he were alive today and still in the Senate, John Kennedy would probably be a Republican who would be to the right of John McCain and the other RINO's who just stabbed us in the back. He wouldn't be the oafish drunk his brother has been for the past four decades.


19 posted on 06/07/2005 5:09:50 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (I don't hate anybody, except the French....)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

Nixon was the first Republican that I voted for. I've been voting Republican eversince.Proudly!


20 posted on 06/07/2005 5:57:24 AM PDT by tom paine 2
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