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Man Gets Life Under Fetal Protection Law
AP ^ | 6/6/05

Posted on 06/06/2005 4:13:45 PM PDT by Crackingham

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To: andyk

I have no idea. Perhaps there's a state law forbidding it after a certain time frame. That may be way off base, I just don't know. The article does say what you mentioned, that she had a right to one.


21 posted on 06/06/2005 4:33:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Once again equal justice under the law is demonstrated for the men of the nation. She has a right to an abortion. He gets life.

It would be interesting what the Supremes would say to an argument relating to the "equal protection" clause. A law that has such unequal outcomes based on status cannot make Constitutional sense. I guess he would be immune if he were a licensed abortionist, so the most he should be charged with is practicing medicine without a license

22 posted on 06/06/2005 4:33:42 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When peace stands for surrender, fear, loss of dignity and freedom, it is no longer peace.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

You're probably right.


23 posted on 06/06/2005 4:34:05 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Crackingham

Life sentence for practicing medicine without a license.


24 posted on 06/06/2005 4:35:38 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: CindyDawg; thoughtomator

Thanks


25 posted on 06/06/2005 4:40:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: andyk

I don't get it. I don't know too much about abortion law, but I was under the impression that abortion can only be performed in the first trimester. Given the fact that she was into the fourth month of her pregnancy, hadn't she already lost the right to an abortion?


26 posted on 06/06/2005 4:40:50 PM PDT by cubram
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To: SauronOfMordor

That's an interesting take. You 'practicing medicine without a license' comment seem rather valid IMO.


27 posted on 06/06/2005 4:42:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Crackingham

I'm sorry, this is ridiculous. She could have gotten an abortion, and he's got a life term? And his actions were done with her consent? The worst he's guilty of is practicing medicine without a license. He must have the worst attorney in the world and I expect this will be litigated to the supreme court. This is absolutely discriminatory, and I say that as a staunch pro-lifer.


28 posted on 06/06/2005 4:42:54 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Crackingham

How can it be murder and abortion at the same time???


29 posted on 06/06/2005 4:44:50 PM PDT by wizardoz
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To: Crackingham
Basoria told authorities that, after about four months of pregnancy, she regretted not getting an abortion and started jogging, skipping prenatal vitamins and hitting her own belly to induce a miscarriage.

Sick, sick, ugly, evil, disgusting, evil, wrong, selfish, callous, mean, evil, sick, cold, cruel, selfish, unfeeling, stupid, evil...

30 posted on 06/06/2005 4:48:18 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: cubram
I was under the impression that abortion can only be performed in the first trimester.

Partly true. States cannot restrict abortions throughout the first trimester. After viability (the beginning of the second trimester), states may restrict abortions not related to the preservation of the life or health of the mother. I'm not sure what Texas' laws are, but I don't see how, under these circumstances, she can be considered to have a right to an abortion. The writer is probably being intentionally obtuse.
31 posted on 06/06/2005 4:58:32 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: Crackingham
"It's a tragedy my client's convicted,"

No, the tragedy, apart from the deaths of two innocent babies, is that the mother isn't in a prison cell right along with her dirtbag "boyfriend."

32 posted on 06/06/2005 5:01:58 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: andyk
After viability (the beginning of the second trimester), states may restrict abortions not related to the preservation of the life or health of the mother.

Nope. Viability is not the beginning of the 2nd trimester (after 12 weeks). In fact, only in the third trimester have the federal courts allowed any significant restrictions on abortion--and even those are easily circumvented, as the case of Dr. "Killer" Tiller in Kansas (who routinely kills viable babies and burns the corpses in his backyard) illustrates.

33 posted on 06/06/2005 5:08:48 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: andyk

She did have an abortion. It just wasn't performed in a medically accepted fashion, and it wasn't performed by a licensed practitioner.

At worst he should have been punished for practicing medicine without a license.


34 posted on 06/06/2005 5:17:57 PM PDT by Poodlebrain
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To: madprof98
Yeah, I screwed that up. Here's the ruling from Roe v Wade. My only response is that the gist of RvW allows for unrestricted abortions, providing one can find a doctor who feels the same way. The ruling is a little obtuse. It's tough to tell whether then intend their a, b, and c sections (no pun intended) to be associated with trimesters. If so, it's interesting they drop the term trimester at section c. I've always thought that "viability" is a copout. It seems intuitively obvious that viability is a function of medical science, which means that restrictions on abortion are subject to scientific advances, an assertion that the beginning of life is not a fixed point.

(a) For the stage prior to approximately the end of the first trimester, the abortion decision and its effectuation must be left to the medical judgment of the pregnant woman's attending physician. Pp. 163, 164.

(b) For the stage subsequent to approximately the end of the first trimester, the State, in promoting its interest in the health of the mother, may, if it chooses, regulate the abortion procedure in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health. Pp. 163, 164.

(c) For the stage subsequent to viability the State, in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life, may, if it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother. Pp. 163-164; 164-165.

35 posted on 06/06/2005 5:19:10 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: SandyInSeattle; MeanWestTexan
"There are many like you and your wife who would have taken these children and cherished them."

That is so true. The thing is that giving birth and giving the child up for adoption requires selflessness and a certain degree of sacrifice. The people who do these things think only of themselves and the "need" of the moment.

36 posted on 06/06/2005 5:20:07 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: Crackingham
Man Gets Life Under Fetal Protection Law

That's certainly more than the twins got.

37 posted on 06/06/2005 5:26:59 PM PDT by GretchenM (Action is eloquence. - William Shakespeare)
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To: andyk

I cannot see how the "right to privacy" protects this piece of human filth from any type of prosecution.


38 posted on 06/06/2005 5:27:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I cannot see how the "right to privacy" protects this piece of human filth from any type of prosecution.

That's because you're more intelligent than the liberals and realize that the constitution doesn't include a "right to privacy."
39 posted on 06/06/2005 5:29:49 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: coloradan

Their decision not to breed was a bit after the fact.

I do wish it was in the judge's power to order that young lady's tubes tied.


40 posted on 06/06/2005 6:59:42 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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